This was always the case in Amateur RL, captains were always told, "third man in is off". The likes of Acton, Higson amongst others would have completed many games.

Greg back to fev then?

Toronto.

I see Soward's charge is actually for punching and not for the off the ball tackle on Worthington.

Was the the fact that he tackled a player from behind when the ball wasn't even in play not even looked at?

Or is it ok now to randomly tackle opposition players well after a try has been scored?

It is on the video so I am not sure how it hasn't been picked up by the panel. It is what started the whole thing

I have given up trying to understand the disciplinary process at the RFL. They just make it up as they go along!

From the disciplinary.

Greg Worthington

DETAILS OF CHARGE / REASON FOR NF Strikes with hand, arm or shoulder - reckless Grade – A

Can they not make there mind up on which one?

Can the stupid buffoons not see it was an attempted tackle?

Well there is one for shoulder. It's called a shoulder charge.

Hand - slap,punch or strike.

arm - stiff arm.

Which one would they like to use for the incident? In my view it was a tackle (not high either).

I think we are looking for the incident between the Grade A and the Grade C..But I dont see a charge,I can see it on the video evidence.

Why can't the panel see it? Soward takes the hit,doesn't like it,takes the game into his own hands.

The Grade A offence should be withdrawn because there was just nothing wrong with it.


DETAILS OF CHARGE / REASON FOR NF :

Rule – 15.1(a) Detail – Strikes – Punching - Repeated Grade – C

The video on that angle doesn't show any evidence of that.

If the disciplinary have a video from a different angle showing the said charge,then fair enough.

I'm more concerned with the fact that the panel have completely ignored what Soward did after the minor.Greg should take the Grade C,but Soward should be on a Grade D before his Grade A..They seem to have missed that bit.

Having watched the 'Youtube' video on the Broncos site, I reckon Soward took exception to Greg's slightly late (but with both hands raised) challenge. He then appears to tackle Worthington from behind. I can't actually see any punches thrown by either player but Ben Thaler obviously did - he's right in the middle of the melee. So, presumably the referee's report has been used here, rather than an inconclusive camera angle. I still believe Thaler is the best there is, and am prepared to trust him on this one.

OK, we can argue that, if Soward hadn't tackled Greg, nothing else would have happened. Or we could argue that, if Greg hadn't gone in recklessly on Soward, nothing would have happened. As the EGP is available to both, it looks like no suspension for Soward, and three for Greg.

In some ways, we could benefit from this decision, as we have cover for Worthington, and I'd prefer Soward to be available for the Broncos against the rest of the teams!

Cokey,

Check the Youtube clip on the Broncos site, and freeze it when Worthington makes contact. His right arm is out and at head height on Soward. he may well have been committed to the tackle but his right arm is high.

Cover has nothing to do with it Alan.Sowards took the game into his own hands,tackled Worthington off the ball because he took one..Soward didn't expect to see red.Had Thaler not been in charge,he probably wouldn't have.

RFL disciplinary/review panel,do need challenging,and review/sentencing laws need to be clarified and fixed.No grey areas.No get out clauses like EPG,no reducing/increasing charges when it fits.What one see's another see's different.Fixed definitions required not available windows or exits to suit.

Alan - would you be kind enough to post a link? I just can't find it. I've found the highlights on youtube which is the angle that's already posted on here. At the point of contact his arms are in a downward position,but because of the nature of movement of the contact,his right arm has been forced back into a upright position. There is nothing sinister in that tackle. He was committed and it just looks worse than you are making out.