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Quote: Mookachaka "All the top teams have the best academies, Wigan, Leeds and Saints. They build their team around youth products'"


But w!g@n, Leeds & Saints all have access to a quality academy competition, we don't. They all receive large sums of money from the RFL, Sky, Sponsors and fans so they can buy up any young player who even shows the slightest hint of talent, we don't. Obviously they are the clubs you want to emulate and what you want to be doing but to suggest that where we are at the moment we can do anything comparable to their academy setups is daft.

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Quote: Mookachaka "Where did Hill, Taylor, Grundy etc play before they reached the first team? They all played in the academy.

Work hard with the ametuers? I'm sure Pownall and Hopkins have played academy rugby, which has no doubt benefited their careers. You can't just jump from ametuer to Pro, to big of a leap.....

This is a backwards step in my opinion! All the top teams have the best academies, Wigan, Leeds and Saints. They build their team around youth products, a bit like we did a couple of years ago.

Let's hope the boom and burst works!! Or else we could be left with no youth players, ageing players with massive salaries and impending debt.

If a club like Leigh can't afford an academy, what does this tell you about the state of their finances???'"

As far as I am aware, Leigh are not permitted to run an Academy or Scholarship program and have not been for some time now.

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Quote: Brad Fittler Fan Club "As far as I am aware, Leigh are not permitted to run an Academy or Scholarship program and have not been for some time now.'"


Exactly.If clubs have the option to opt in/out when they please,how can there be structure.

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So you congratulate them for winning a weak league two seasons on trot , then pull out cos it's gonna be stoner c,mon

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Quote: try scorer "So you congratulate them for winning a weak league two seasons on trot , then pull out cos it's gonna be stoner c,mon'"


I'm not doubting what has been achieved,I'm doubting the structure around it.You could end up with only 4 reserve teams next season,what benefit is that to anyone.

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Quote: try scorer "So you congratulate them for winning a weak league two seasons on trot , then pull out cos it's gonna be stoner c,mon'"


Whatever your club enters and wins the team should be congratulated on, then evaluate its benefits if in doubt

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lets have a good look at it wigan and Leeds have the best of youth and junior set ups followed by warrington then St. Helens . I have been to the one in Leeds and spent a lot of time at wigans they invest a lot of money in them and I mean a lot wigan and Leeds network of talent identifiers is unmatched they know every player in the country from john o groats to lands end you will never match that system or better it . the best way to have a chance is to work with the amateurs very closely leigh east have over 20 graded coaches apply this to a decent scouting structure and you won't get left behind but it would be money well spent my team at leigh east is the under 6s and already I have identified several players that will make pro level of leigh gave me the money to look after these players then the journey will start and be successful if not then keep paying overrated Aussies top dollar see were that gets you . if your 30 and in the championship your not good enough if your 6 and playing for miners or east you will most likely make it to a decent level and sl . good scouts pick players wisely the ones that wigan and Leeds miss like chris hill £250 micky high am £500 Paul rowley £1000 Sid Baldwin £1000 see what I mean rangi chase will cost leigh over 200k now do the sums'"


You seem to name the top 4 in SL as your answer.Do you not think SL for Leigh would carry a similar response..Would it not be in the interest of East to see Leigh in top flight?

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Quote: maurice "I realise that your a Wigan lad and your son played in the Academy, but you need to cease winding folk up on here. To build a real conveyor you need to compete for the best kids both financially and with a proven pathway, neither can be done at Championship level and hence you simply turn a side out and tick a box.
There will be loads of kids with better potential than we can attract shown the door by SL clubs every year, as it stands we can only attract the kids SL overlooks and that isnt going to feed you.
Lets focus on the youngsters at East/Miners/Parkside etc and get the club into a position we can offer a decent opportunity for the better players who now are snapped up by the established SL clubs in the area, and that means SL.
20 years of sky funding has only created a few decent SL academy's, we have no chance without being in SL'"


Why do you think I'm a Wigan fan?

Why do you think I have a son? (Might have one in Mexico but that's another story)

Winding people up, I'm giving opinion...... if I'm winding you up, don't read it hahaha

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Quote: mr. chairman "let me say this it would not make a difference to east or miners wether leigh were in sl or not we would still keep producing sl players in good numbers what leigh need is a structure that will support sl rugby getting rid of the reserves is a backward step that will put pressure on the amateur clubs'"


It seems Huddersfield are not running reserves as well Keith.

How many East or Miners players are in the SL 17's week in week out? Manfredi, Moore, - anyone else?

How can a championship club attract the best kids? The best kids will migrate to the best facilities, the best clubs, the best opportunities and the best career path - that will not be Championship.

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so virtually no leigh lads in SL then

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Anyone know were the youngsters are going?

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in the key age groups of 13/14/15 there seems little Leigh elite presence, hardly a shock when the local schools barely play the game these days.
Wigan/Saints/Wire have over 120 players on their u16 academy squads. They will always suck in the best as long as we are in the championship

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Quote: maurice "in the key age groups of 13/14/15 there seems little Leigh elite presence, hardly a shock when the local schools barely play the game these days.
Wigan/Saints/Wire have over 120 players on their u16 academy squads. They will always suck in the best as long as we are in the championship'"

Can you clarify what you mean in that?

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Quote: Brad Fittler Fan Club "Can you clarify what you mean in that?'"


Hes obviously missed the current intake of under 14s lads from Leigh on various SL clubs scholarship programs plus regular links with the pro clubs for those players who havent, to ensure they dont slip through any nets.

I am not fully sure of the numbers but there is a good quantity of Leigh lads also on the u15s/u16s pro club programs as well

Wigan have Kibula on there books who has also represented England, Josh Woods who has just played and won a grand final with the Wigan lower grade teams, I also know Lee Hansons lads are doing well for themselves.

Thankfully the game isnt limited to the local schools and East & Miners are doing the town proud in providing a lot of lads to clubs, pity the Centurions don't want them as i am sure if you asked most of the lads a good %tage would love to play for there home town pro club

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Quote: maurice "It seems Huddersfield are not running reserves as well Keith.

How many East or Miners players are in the SL 17's week in week out? Manfredi, Moore, - anyone else?

How can a championship club attract the best kids? The best kids will migrate to the best facilities, the best clubs, the best opportunities and the best career path - that will not be Championship.'"


Its the same with Fax, how do we attract the good young players from the area when you have SL scouts and teams like Hudds and recently Bradford on your doorstep. There must be 10 Fax lads alone in the Huddersfield squad and then when you factor in all the ones at Warrington, Salford, Bradford etc its easy to see the area does produce the talent but the only way they end up back at Fax is when they are deemed not good enough for their SL teams like Ambler, Saltonstall, Fairbank etc etc.

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