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| Quote: mapleyther "I think that press release went on a bit to be perfectly honest. Just look at the title of it - "Beaumont hailing the start of the full time era?" We don't play our first real match until mid-Feb for goodness sake! Perhaps simply an excuse to make a statement about Brierley and Barlow and million pound offers that don't exist.
Not quite Faisal Nahboohoo territory just yet but I regret the fact that we seem to be going down the one-man band show path for the umpteenth time. It never seems to end well.
And I have no agenda!'"
Why is anyone on here bothered if we have one major shareholder or not? Law of averages tell you most sporting clubs have majority shareholders and to be absolutely clear without Derek as the majority shareholder we wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of Super League. The guy is putting in fortunes and with him we have every chance of SL.
It's time for the few on here to bite their tongue or should I say staple their fingers and enjoy the success Derek is providing!
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Why is anyone on here bothered if we have one major shareholder or not? Law of averages tell you most sporting clubs have majority shareholders and to be absolutely clear without Derek as the majority shareholder we wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of Super League. The guy is putting in fortunes and with him we have every chance of SL.
It's time for the few on here to bite their tongue or should I say staple their fingers and enjoy the success Derek is providing!'"
I admire Derek for what he is doing and the drive and passion he has for Leigh RL. I have a lot of time for the chap.
My only concern is that he does not walk away again as he has done previously. If he does then we really will be up e creek and we will not even have a boat this time let alone a paddle. No one else will be able to cover the huge financial gap his departure would incur.
In the mean time I will do as you say and enjoy the ride.
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| Look if Derek has now taken full control of the club then so be it. He's done a great job so far and as long we achieve the dream of SL everything should work out fine, if we don't then I'm not so sure.
If he is in control, then great, why not do a press release about it? If not, and the other directors are still involved financially (didn't they all pledge to invest over three years?) then he has a duty when speaking to the press etc to at least acknowledge the presence of the BoM and not speak about the club as though it's his alone. He might be the majority shareholder but if they're still investing their hard earned cash the board deserve some credit too.
I'm not a sheep. I have a mind of my own and because free speech is still legal in this great country of ours I'm entitled to ask questions. Does it matter if I get a reply - of course not, but that doesn't mean I can't raise the issue regardless and if that makes it seem like I have an agenda then fair enough, I suppose I do.
For what it's worth, I think issuing that statement is a big mistake. The title says one thing but the content is something completely different. If Hetherington made illegal approaches to our players then Derek should have dealt with it privately, even if that meant going through the RFL, and also, it's now obvious to all that there have been some problems with the players and their contracts - does that really need to be the subject of an official press statement? I think not.
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| Well said, hopefully will put an end to all the nonsense rumours, although we all know it'll only be a matter of time before someone else's drinking buddy's friend’s uncle's son over heard someone say that Ryan was now signed for [draw random club name out of a hat]. Hope Derrick means what he says about Hetherington being on his last chance, I know we don't want to be making enemies but you can't let people continually flout the RFL rules & unsettle our team.
I've no problem with the use of 1st person in the statement; Derrick is Director of rugby & so would be dealing with these negotiations himself.
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| I think a simple statement would have sufficed
" Contrary to recent speculation linking Ryan with another club, I have spoken personally to Ryan who has never expressed any interest to join another club and is currently fully commited to playing his part in helping Leigh RL attain its goal of SL during the remainder of his recently signed 3 year contract"
That would do.
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| Quote: mish "Look if Derek has now taken full control of the club then so be it. He's done a great job so far and as long we achieve the dream of SL everything should work out fine, if we don't then I'm not so sure.
If he is in control, then great, why not do a press release about it? If not, and the other directors are still involved financially (didn't they all pledge to invest over three years?) then he has a duty when speaking to the press etc to at least acknowledge the presence of the BoM and not speak about the club as though it's his alone. He might be the majority shareholder but if they're still investing their hard earned cash the board deserve some credit too.
I'm not a sheep. I have a mind of my own and because free speech is still legal in this great country of ours I'm entitled to ask questions. Does it matter if I get a reply - of course not, but that doesn't mean I can't raise the issue regardless and if that makes it seem like I have an agenda then fair enough, I suppose I do.
For what it's worth, I think issuing that statement is a big mistake. The title says one thing but the content is something completely different. If Hetherington made illegal approaches to our players then Derek should have dealt with it privately, even if that meant going through the RFL, and also, it's now obvious to all that there have been some problems with the players and their contracts - does that really need to be the subject of an official press statement? I think not.'"
I am still investing(giving) my hard earned Mish as it was a 3 year/payment commitment, yet I nor any of us felt a need to question this release, which was not the first time you had raised this ownership/derek issue.
Do you have a Derek issue Mish? Derek is not a man to leave us in pooh should he ever have a need to relinquish control and who knows what the future brings Euro Lottery win for Frank, Mandy K or Marwan realising Leigh is closer to home
Enjoy where we are, look at the glass as half full and look forward to a great 2015 ahead of us
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| I don't know Derek personally, but from what I've seen he is fully committed to the club. I accept he is a big personality, some people don't like that, some people do, but as I said the PR knockers, I'm prepared to give him a chance, and rather than attack or be negative I prefer to offer my support. So far, since Derek & others involvement, we have been financially stable, we have won 2 trophies, lost only 2 games in an entire season and as of today gone full time as a team.
Have we done everything right, probably not, but then again who is perfect? Will we get things wrong in the future, almost certainly, but, and this is key for me, we seem to heading in the right direction and I don't know any organisation that gets to its goal without a few bumps in the road.
So I shall continue to follow our progress with great interest and keep supporting whoever is at the helm as I trust they want the same success for our club as I do.
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| Quote: maurice "I am still investing(giving) my hard earned Mish as it was a 3 year/payment commitment, yet I nor any of us felt a need to question this release, which was not the first time you had raised this ownership/derek issue.
Do you have a Derek issue Mish? Derek is not a man to leave us in pooh should he ever have a need to relinquish control and who knows what the future brings Euro Lottery win for Frank, Mandy K or Marwan realising Leigh is closer to home
I would like to put on record my agreement with my dear friend Maurice.
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| Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.
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| There's nothing to have a tribunal about. Both players are clearly contracted to the club, if we decide not to sell then they don't leave until their contracts are done.
It's sounds to me that we as a club are positioning ourselves to not have all our talent cherry-picked, and I agree with the standpoint. We have signed players up and they are obligated to the club for the duration of that contract. If they want to take their ball home then they can enjoy reserve rugby for a while.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.'"
How does he get a 2yr offer without his contract holder sanctioning anything?
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| Quote: maurice "How does he get a 2yr offer without his contract holder sanctioning anything?'"
Illegally.
Although it's ok, Barlow's mum phoned Leeds first
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.'"
So not one person is telling the truth then, how about your source?
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