Another agree
Madens been a great servant but is a weak link now as first choice, handy to have in the squad
Tom Armstrong played right centre at Sheffield, and that's were Wigan and Wire hit us at the start of the second half. Gardner played left centre last year but I assume he isn't fit yet, but Armstrong needs to play right imho or can Sarsfield do a job as left centre?
Seen some brilliant try's in the friendlies, and the work off the ball in attack is so much better. Higson and Brown will score a pan full this season, as will Kaye and Kes

Nothing wrong with Gardner but I didn't pick him, is it a problem for you?

I too feel its perhaps a season too far for Maden also....as long as we have a replacement for him

Why would that be a problem for me? You said we're a good centre short and I asked what's wrong with Gardner as IMO he's a good centre & he wasn't mentioned. I know Fred Parky said in pre season training Mado's looked good & despite his lack of pace he's been reliable but he hasn't looked great in the friendlies. Brown's new to the club so he needs to be given time to get his game right that said if he performs like he has done again on sunday at Fax (shocking defending) I'd drop him for the Batley game.

It's a pitty Pownall's injured as I wouldn't mind seeing him & Gardner paired up again.



It's definately a option as they are both excellent utilty players but I would prefer Sarsfield at centre as Thornley can play in't back row for 80 mins no problems although Andy could do a good job at centre effectively too.

There is definitely a vacancy for a centre who is capable of doing what a centre does, as well as having positional awareness and good tackling skills he should be capable of feeding his winger when appropriate and taking on the line when it is the better option. Pace is a given.
A fullback or winger shouldn't be used at centre and a half back should only play at centre when there is no other option available.

Well we could go with Armstrong Kay Higson and Brown.

Some pace there.

With the size of Brown you'd think he'd be a good centre but juydging by his 3 games for us defensively he's liability but hopefully both Rowls & Brown address this before the 16th & he plays to his full potential.

Put Armstrong wing and brown centre? really worried at times when brown is on the wing, as good as he is in attack, at times in defence it's like he's never played rugby before

McNally
Higson
Armstrong
Gardner
Brown
Ridyard
Brieley..
With Kaye and Pownall Maden that's our best option this season for a decent backline in my opinion

He won the MOM yesterday.

Was gonna say no he didn't then I realised you meant higgy..

So you are only changing Littler for Armstrong. From what I have observed it is debatable if that would give us any advantage. I agree with you though about being a good centre short.

Charlie wasn't to concerned about yesterdays performance or result , we gave away to many penalties , and didn't see much of the ball in second half , still not a bad performance , maybe lacking a bit of urgency in Defence , but I feel the Batley game will see us at our real best , hopefully fielding a first choice 17 , the future is bright , Charlie knows .

Think Armstrong has been suffering from a foot injury for the last four weeks, which has affected speed and mobility.
A number of players have been struggling with some injury problems, or are still on post op recoveries. Brown made the left side look vulnerable yesterday, not Sarsfield and Armstrong. He flies out of the line at the moment, causing lots of space for centres and wings to run into, creating overlaps that shouldn't be there.
The season doesn't start for two weeks yet, so more time for injury niggles to clear up, line ups to be decided and tactics to be worked on. We'll be alright when the Championship begins for real.