It's too late when you've ceded your control.

There's only 1 thing could change the situation, and that is if the entire sport, minus Super League, walked away and took away all the support structures. SL couldn't survive on it's own. Then and only then, we might be able to bring about a fairer structure in the game.

Such unity in the game hasn't been known since 1895, so it's not likely. Without it, we only see more SL self protectionism.



(Now let be careful here, I think we're in risk of this thread breaking out in to actual debate.)

Ah, yes, but, if I continue I will start to criticise, so I'll leave it there

When all the SL licensing began I posted then it would only be a matter of time before they broke away from the rest, and encouraged by SKY there will be a combined new code, involving the top SL and Union clubs, making it a truly national game, the only restraining factor will be Unions International’s.

RUBBISH, BLOODY BEDFORD CLUELESS FANS

Maybe the SL chairman and the RFL chairman could get together.......oh hang on its the same person isn't it.

Get ALL the RFL member clubs around the RFL council table one club one vote....or is that too simple.

Info regarding money from a report I read stated 1.3M for the 12 in SL1. 650k down to 150k on a sliding scale for SL2 and 75k for Championship 1 clubs. An increase for all so whats the pie eaters problem. This won't now be sorted until after the World Cup.

Stupidly or otherwise existing Champ clubs may have started strengthening with the carrots in mind especially the 5 who may have been in danger of dropping out of the Championship at the end of 2014. This could cause serious problems.

There are doubts at the moment on 3 clubs involvement in SL next season Bradford again, Wakefield and of course London.

What a fecking mess the game is in!

Actually that was my Uncle Chairman Mao we discussed it at length when we were having an argument about Feng Shui and the health benefits of pot noodle.

Sorry to be pedantic but he said Frank one single step and not just 1 step.

I never liked him.

Trouble is that said combined code will be RU under any other name. And I've no doubt it would fall on it's backside. All makes perfect sense in theory, but there's a reason why people from Castleford watch Castleford rugby league, why people from Leeds watch Leeds rugby league and why every bugger else watches Wigan rugby league.

I think Skys commitment to SL was shown on Saturday when they scheduled the biggest game of the season at the same time as Sunderland v Man Utd.Many pubs in manchester showed the football instead of the Grand Final which caused some trouble as lots of fans go to Manchester to watch the final and spend the day and night with other RL fans.

RL is just a plaything for Sky and unfortunately you reap what you sow and SL clubs have sold their souls.
If the SL clubs do renage on the so called new structure I will not be surprised as they from day 1 have not really cared about any other club if its not SL, even DCs suit them they are doing us no favours.

I agree it would likely fail but equally I also thought a mass move from Winter to Summer to accommodate a TV Channel and Cup Play off RL to decide a champion (and to add fixtures for a TV Channel) wouldn't happen.
I also didn't believe the governing body would allow chairmen's wealth or state of stadia to dictate a clubs progression in [isport[/i yet as I type I suspect most fans can name the club chairmen yet struggle to name 5 players of some SL clubs.

I firmly believe that the big SL clubs will be playing with the lessor RU clubs within 5 years time with SKY looking at a hybrid sport that might get some inquisitive viewers and with the main pull for the TV Channel being sponsors willing to advertise between those games.

The guys running these clubs clearly have self interest at heart , just read some of the sound bites coming out from Wigan - I really do hope any partnership is in the bin now as reading things attributed to the Wigan Chairmen clearly shows he begrudges any money going anyway but to the few (no harm in that as such but FORGET any hope of RL becoming a strong unified sport with people like him around, it will continue to fragment as now).

People in Castleford will be able to continue to watch Castleford RL they wouldn't make the cut.

Well I did say from day 1 when licenscing was introduced Richard Lewis was a RU plant.

How could anyone have ever respected a guy who went on Granada TV and denied the LSV excisted after he had been there ?

SKY are only interested in SKY (and why shouldn't they), and know most Southerners would rather watch Utd than two northern town teams playing some form of rugby that they don’t understand.

A truly national game however creates that interest.

Thats my point SKY know this and will always treat RL as a very poor relation even when our biggest match of the year is on.
If there is one game that non Northerners watch though its the Grand Final and this was a missed oportunity to promote our game,yet again .