Why? What was said mate?

My mistake. We walked the first game, against Richmond if I remember correctly, but Lindsay was reportedly baited by various RFU people in the boxes pre-kick off. That was one of the strangest days watching rugby I've ever had. We scored, polite clapping. The opposition scored and the crowd were up on their feet shouting and jumping.

Is that why a 34 year old (sorry 30 year old, I forgot you lose 4 years when you sign for a union club) with shot knees ended up playing centre for ENGLAND when he had been moved to prop at Wigan?

It wasn't 20 years ago, it was 9 when Bradford won it by miles, they've not been invited back since.

What was that lad called who was god awful at Widnes and Salford, ended up playing for England RU? Tyrer?

A prop in union has to be able to push. That's it, be heavy, and push. Wow, what an athlete!

And scrums in union arn't anything to brag about, every union fan I know knows it's a mess.

But league and union are completely different sports so it would be incredible if a rugby league prop [icould[/i walk straight into union and hold his own in the scrum. I doubt Rio Ferdinand would be much use in the centres just as some of the second rowers in union would look like statues in league. What you tend to find at all levels is that backs find it easier to move from league to union.

Maths obviously not your strong point then!

I suggest you read my post again and then respond to the points I made instead of trying to give a history lesson.
The point being made and that you have proved is that the majority of RL fans don't watch and don't understand union and therefore slag it off as it is the easiest option.

Exactly thanks for agreeing with me.

More than welcome.

They don't watch it because it's .

They do understand it, and I undestand why the rah rahs think it's a technical game-it's because they're all stupid.
It's not a complicated game at all, which is the default term their idiotic fans always bat back to us. There are just a lot of rules.

With every post you prove my point.
What a well constructed argument you have put together.

You aren't doing your cause any good now jonny
Tony, one thing I would say is that while they are some rugby league fans who slag off union it isn't the majority. In my experience the majority couldn't give a rat's about the sport. And don't think the sniping, mocking and name calling is a one-way street. I posted on Planet Rugby for a goodly while and the abuse I and others who followed rugby league got was unreal at times.

You are Darth Vader and I claim my £5

Quite enjoying the RUWC to be honest. There are good and bad games in every sport. I've seen some dire RL matches in my time. My advice to people who can't stand RU is don't watch it. I'll support England in whatever sport they play.

Anyone who thinks RU is a posh or middle class game, so go down to Tyldesley RUFC on a Saturday afternoon. There's room in this world for more than one sport I think. Union is a much different game to League, anyone who went to see the Wigan v Harlequins (I think) game in the 90's or the Saints v Sale game around 8 years ago can see that. One half played League and the half played Union. Union teams won both those games.