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| Quote: Tipster Ste "How do we know AT hasn't been spending his interest over the last 5 years??'"
Has he spent a single penny of it on marketing the club ?
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| Agreed Steve, our marketing of the clubs has been the same over the last 5 years as the previous 27, none existent
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| Well, I was up in Leigh today for my granddaughter's first, and a certain ex-crane hire owners name cropped several times in convo, coupled with somebody telling me Trevor Barton was acting CEO hours before the announcement was made ....
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Agreed Steve, our marketing of the clubs has been the same over the last 5 years as the previous 27, none existent'"
So we have an entertainment business , and we don't market it , and then people wonder why we end up in a mess every 4/5 years ?
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| Quote: mr. chairman "It's not easy , Richard Branson for all his wealth saw it as a big loser . It's like throwing money away as you will never get it back , ask AT . The trouble with the position Leigh find themselves in is we have golden share directors with each holding 25k in shares, what happens to them also too many cooks will cause problems within that group . It needs one main man with some smaller ones underneath him but he will want total control or he won't come, I personally think that there are a few other problems as well
But nothing that can't be overcome with some honesty'"
From a different angle, owning a sports team is not an investment in any sport, look at Kennedy in Yawnion and how much Hicks and Gillett put into Liverpool FC for nothing in return.
On a positive note, 150K Per Annum is reasonably cheap to run a successful sports team, if a hobby and a bit of success and adulation is what you're after. From this point of view, Leigh Centurions is quite a good prospect.
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Totally agree Keith. It would be helpful to understand who exactly owns shares in the club etc ....'"
I really don't think who owns three shares in SCL will have any bearing on any future ownership , I would have thought that Arthurs investement would trump anybody else , even mine
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| Quote: Welshpool Leyther "Well, I was up in Leigh today for my granddaughter's first, and a certain ex-crane hire owners name cropped several times in convo, coupled with somebody telling me Trevor Barton was acting CEO hours before the announcement was made ....'"
Here's hoping altho Trevors announcement was on the news yesterday.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "From a different angle, owning a sports team is not an investment in any sport, look at Kennedy in Yawnion and how much Hicks and Gillett put into Liverpool FC for nothing in return.
On a positive note, 150K Per Annum is reasonably cheap to run a successful sports team, if a hobby and a bit of success and adulation is what you're after. From this point of view, Leigh Centurions is quite a good prospect.'"
It is until something happens and that money is no longer there
Because everybody , including the person putting it in doesn't do the job properly because they assume the money will ALWAYS be there , if they put another 50 K in for the first 3/4 years , the amount the then have to put in in the future can reduce , but it almost becomes a ' right of passage ' between the various owners , who can throw the most money away
Quite often , just like Arthur , their business will have never needed the skills you need to run an Entertainment business , if you mention ' Marketing ' , the standard reply will be in reference to their ' Corporate sales ' , and that is it , that is as far as they can see
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| Quote: Starbug "I really don't think who owns three shares in SCL will have any bearing on any future ownership , I would have thought that Arthurs investement would trump anybody else , even mine
What % of shares does AT own if it wasn't 51% people like SM OR BP wouldn't touch without knowing who owns the rest
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| Quote: Starbug "So we have an entertainment business , and we don't market it , and then people wonder why we end up in a mess every 4/5 years ?'"
Agreed but the whole marketing of the entire sport is a shambles
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "What % of shares does AT own if it wasn't 51% people like SM OR BP wouldn't touch without knowing who owns the rest'"
Well I've got three , how that equates to percentage of total , no idea
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Agreed but the whole marketing of the entire sport is a shambles'"
Yes it is , and I have argued long and hard that the RFL should help clubs , but as you suggest , they are clueless
However it is still no excuse , this is where my ' run it as a business ' comes from , treat it like a brand new business , just having a good team on the pitch will never bring in the funds required to break even
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| The RFL should have central fund and standardised adverts to help push the RL brand. In my opinion just 1% of the tv contract reinvested in marketing would have brought a significant ROI over the last 16 years
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| I heard a certain crane firms former owner mentioned at work on friday........ plenty money if true.
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| Slightly o/t, but a lot is said about gate receipt money.
Do people honestly believe if the entrance fee was dropped slightly more people would come?
Could a bonus scheme be offered on a trial basis, where as for every ticket purchased there is a slight discount on one for the next home Match, as a loyalty thing.
Would this entice stay aways?
Also when the club give out family tickets etc its only those who normally attend but get in for free anyhow, wouldn't it be great If the regular 'loyal' supporter then made a small donation to LISA?
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