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Quote: frankb "Joys or not have you noticed you only get downs and ups about things really important to you ?'"

Very true in sport............

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Quote: mr. chairman "Don't tell me that not one supporter didn't think this could happen , one man pumping so much money in to the club was a disaster waiting to happen . Should have been helping AT three years ago not talking about it know . When will this club ever learn . We will now be given all the bull about a consortium that will save the club , well it's simple , get the people who are willing to take over guarantee the same mint per month that AT put in for the next three years , then we can say we are on our way to super league . It's that simple . Walk the walk'"


We will continue to live under the mushroom until real change is welcomed. AT didnt want help and wasted a lot of what he put in, but it was his money to spend so it was not for us to comment how he spent it.
The facts are we have a carp deal with LSV that strangles us, no business skills inside the structure and need to have a total clear out whilst finding £150k plus pa to fund the gap.
The funny thing is £150k is not a lot to find if we look outside the box and pull together.

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well ian laid it bare for all to hear and understand, if nobody/group steps up we are in a real mess. This is the problem when one person is the main financier of a club, that person is not there anymore, and this is what happens, just a question but the remaining directors, do they have the financial clout to invest or not? i guess i could answer my own question really, basically ian said as much on the radio. worrying times for us, i am far more concerned with off field matters than the performance this evening, best team won by a mile.

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We should have only 1 concern and that is the future of our club, the rest simply doesnt matter at present.

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One or two of the board members can fund the club if they wanted to till the end of the season, lots of rumours going about but someone needs to deny or confirm them from the club.

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Quote: maurice "We will continue to live under the mushroom until real change is welcomed. AT didnt want help and wasted a lot of what he put in, but it was his money to spend so it was not for us to comment how he spent it.
The facts are we have a carp deal with LSV that strangles us, no business skills inside the structure and need to have a total clear out whilst finding £150k plus pa to fund the gap.
The funny thing is £150k is not a lot to find if we look outside the box and pull together.'"


I always thought that AT had made the shares available to anyone that was interested, but obviously no one was. For the club to continue it looks like someone (or group of people) need to get interested quick. Maurice, do you think that there is real interest from the business community in the town to keep the club going. My personal opinion is probably not, but lets hope so. As you keep repeating the fans can help, but I would question that the fans could raise the £150k per year that you quote.

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I'm bricking it, I just hope there's some better news on the horizon soon. If a supporters trust is set up i'm willing to give into it, but i'd feel better if there were a few positive rumours but there really arn't.

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Are Rochdale a supporters trust? Seems to have brought them some stability if true although some fellas in Ireland are claiming they saved them. Would probably need a new deal with LSV to make it work for Leigh.

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If there is no potential immediate investment, then the only option is to cut costs immediately.

If we can keep as much as the consistantly playing 1st teamers together, then all well and good.
Anyone prone to injury's, over 23 (on a decent contract) who are consistently in the reserves must go.
Trim the squad (admittedly difficult until their contract expires or unless another club takes them off our hands).
Plough any monies in to the 1st team only, that's all that matters.
Forget scholorships etc etc. that's what East and Miners do well developing the future players.

What does it matter if we don't have these teams, it maybe a SL requisite but we are many many years away from reaching that platform, if ever.

We'll be back to a very small retainer fee plus larger winning bonuses.
Exactly how Blackpool FC got promoted to the Premiership, all players always desperate to win to get paid.

Drastic times call for drastic measures.

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As a Fax fan who couldn't make the game I listened on the radio to the guys commentating and what surprised me was they gave two figures..2500 and 3000 (there seemed confusion which was more accurate)for supporters to come through the gate just to break even. That itself must be a worry as clubs like Fax and Leigh always hover around the 2.5k mark when decent teams come to our grounds but then you get the likes of Dewsbury and Sheffield with virtually nil away support and do not have that "extra" factor to bring out those hit and miss supporters that brings down the attendances drastically

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Quote: urbancarrot "As a Fax fan who couldn't make the game I listened on the radio to the guys commentating and what surprised me was they gave two figures..2500 and 3000 (there seemed confusion which was more accurate)for supporters to come through the gate just to break even. That itself must be a worry as clubs like Fax and Leigh always hover around the 2.5k mark when decent teams come to our grounds but then you get the likes of Dewsbury and Sheffield with virtually nil away support and do not have that "extra" factor to bring out those hit and miss supporters that brings down the attendances drastically'"


The break even at the LSV is around 4,000

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Quote: urbancarrot "As a Fax fan who couldn't make the game I listened on the radio to the guys commentating and what surprised me was they gave two figures..2500 and 3000 (there seemed confusion which was more accurate)for supporters to come through the gate just to break even. That itself must be a worry as clubs like Fax and Leigh always hover around the 2.5k mark when decent teams come to our grounds but then you get the likes of Dewsbury and Sheffield with virtually nil away support and do not have that "extra" factor to bring out those hit and miss supporters that brings down the attendances drastically'"


Someones (Starbug?) mentioned the fact on here that at Hilton Park we needed to average 2500 to break even, at the LSV it's 4000. Think i've got that right, if not someone will correct me.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Someones (Starbug?) mentioned the fact on here that at Hilton Park we needed to average 2500 to break even, at the LSV it's 4000. Think i've got that right, if not someone will correct me.'"


At Hilton Park it was around 2800

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Thats a rather large break even point and one you are never going to hit anywhere other than SL.

If those figures are true then moving to the LSV may well be the biggest mistake your club has ever made. The only Club to play in this division recently and hit that kind of average was Cas, and fair play to them they have 4.5k -5k die hard fans. Leigh, I think in the early 2000's your crowds may have come close to that figure. But the interest is not there at this level anymore since the RFL want it run as a beefed up reserve league for SL players.

If you dont get a big backer like Widnes did i would advise trying to take a hand as a supporters trust.

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Quote: TonyGee "[sizeThats a rather large break even point and one you are never going to hit anywhere other than SL.[/size
If those figures are true then moving to the LSV may well be the biggest mistake your club has ever made. The only Club to play in this division recently and hit that kind of average was Cas, and fair play to them they have 4.5k -5k die hard fans. Leigh, I think in the early 2000's your crowds may have come close to that figure. But the interest is not there at this level anymore since the RFL want it run as a beefed up reserve league for SL players.

If you dont get a big backer like Widnes did i would advise trying to take a hand as a supporters trust.'"


Totally unrealistic even doing well in SL these days with none or little travelling species from London, Wales and France we would be lucky to average 4k over a full season.

Once again the club has been managed poorly and sold down the river yet the people responsible retain hero status.

All will be revealed watch this space.

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