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Could the Championship clubs take the RL to court, challenging them for preventing the opportunity to progress and increase revenue etc. etc. etc. Perhaps asking them to break up the SL's monopoly on the game?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Clitheroe "Could the Championship clubs take the RL to court, challenging them for preventing the opportunity to progress and increase revenue etc. etc. etc. Perhaps asking them to break up the SL's monopoly on the game?'"


They could , but why would they ? , how many clubs are realistically affected by no P and R to SL ?

Probably 4 at most , so unless you can convince the other 17 that it is in their interests to take the governing body to court , not for getting that those clubs rely on central funding to operate more than the 4 interested in SL do , not going to happen , an individual or group of clubs could do it on their own of course , if they wanted a 2/3/4 year break from playing anything

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I havent read all of this, its been done to death however just to answer one of Frank b's initial sarcy points.
People are comparing the couple of years post licenses to pre licenses while forgetting one major major major player, especially in the working class towns in which RL is played.

The recession.

There I used it, that word everyone blames everything on. Clubs struggling for fans/finances/blah blah I brought this up 18 months ago on the warrington board and no one seemed interested in discussing the fact that maybe we had lost money because many fans couldnt afford to go. When money's good and everyones in a job 15 quid at the weekend or whatever is no issue, you can even afford a couple of pints but when it comes down to you having two pints at the rugby or taking the whole family out for a meal on a sunday afternoon out.....

I know what many of my friends/relatives/colleagues are choosing to do.

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[quote="littlerich":1czuya0c]Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.[/quote:1czuya0c]:1030.gif



Quote: Dico "I havent read all of this, its been done to death however just to answer one of Frank b's initial sarcy points.
People are comparing the couple of years post licenses to pre licenses while forgetting one major major major player, especially in the working class towns in which RL is played.

The recession.

There I used it, that word everyone blames everything on. Clubs struggling for fans/finances/blah blah I brought this up 18 months ago on the warrington board and no one seemed interested in discussing the fact that maybe we had lost money because many fans couldnt afford to go. When money's good and everyones in a job 15 quid at the weekend or whatever is no issue, you can even afford a couple of pints but when it comes down to you having two pints at the rugby or taking the whole family out for a meal on a sunday afternoon
out.....

I know what many of my friends/relatives/colleagues are choosing to do.'"


Most sensible post of yours I've read on here. Well done. Keep it up.

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I genuinely believe RL is in for a big boom period 2013 onwards. We've got to move with the times however and im mightily impressed to see the ptb quicker this year. by 2017 almost every decent chp club will be in an extended SL anyway.
IMO of course.

Answering the point at the top of this page.
Can you balls sue them; the only thing you can do is breakaway and form your own RFL if you will.
Any of you clubs fancy it? no? no? get back in yerr line

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See you can be a big boy now stay within those parameters and everything will be Ok

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Quote: Dico "I havent read all of this, its been done to death however just to answer one of Frank b's initial sarcy points.
People are comparing the couple of years post licenses to pre licenses while forgetting one major major major player, especially in the working class towns in which RL is played.

The recession.

There I used it, that word everyone blames everything on. Clubs struggling for fans/finances/blah blah I brought this up 18 months ago on the warrington board and no one seemed interested in discussing the fact that maybe we had lost money because many fans couldnt afford to go. When money's good and everyones in a job 15 quid at the weekend or whatever is no issue, you can even afford a couple of pints but when it comes down to you having two pints at the rugby or taking the whole family out for a meal on a sunday afternoon out.....

Hard to disagree with your post Dico. Good point well made.

I know what many of my friends/relatives/colleagues are choosing to do.'"


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Quote: Dico "I havent read all of this, its been done to death however just to answer one of Frank b's initial sarcy points.
People are comparing the couple of years post licenses to pre licenses while forgetting one major major major player, especially in the working class towns in which RL is played.

The recession.

There I used it, that word everyone blames everything on. Clubs struggling for fans/finances/blah blah I brought this up 18 months ago on the warrington board and no one seemed interested in discussing the fact that maybe we had lost money because many fans couldnt afford to go. When money's good and everyones in a job 15 quid at the weekend or whatever is no issue, you can even afford a couple of pints but when it comes down to you having two pints at the rugby or taking the whole family out for a meal on a sunday afternoon out.....

I know what many of my friends/relatives/colleagues are choosing to do.'"



You are completely right the recession has hit hard , and it has hit even harder down here , but if you are suggesting that no promotion isn't an issue for clubs like ours , you are wrong , it is a huge issue for what you would term our ' occaisional or fairweather ' fan , those that will come to the more interesting matches like Widnes,Fax or Fev , or a play off and final , it is those that are no longer bothering , and more and more are going the same way

As for your suggestion we will all be in an extended SL in 5/6 years time , you are in dreamland

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Quote: Dico "I genuinely believe RL is in for a big boom period 2013 onwards. We've got to move with the times however and im mightily impressed to see the ptb quicker this year. by 2017 almost every decent chp club will be in an extended SL anyway.
IMO of course.

Answering the point at the top of this page.
Can you balls sue them; the only thing you can do is breakaway and form your own RFL if you will.
Any of you clubs fancy it? no? no? get back in yerr line'"


Or if the RFL continues with this ridiculous closed shop with ambiguous 4 year cycles, we could threaten to re-join the RFU or Magners League - and then let the RFL bid to keep us icon_biggrin.gif

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It might even be 9 years time but I believe it will happen; either from a conference system or a 2 tier system.
I've never suggested that no promotion hasn't hindered things somewhat, but its a new system, give it time. Next time I believe that 2 teams will be promoted.. you watch the scramble to tick boxes on/off field then, the competition will be there.
The problem you faced this time is that SL should really have been 15 clubs, or Widnes instead of one of Wakey/Cas (imo of course). As a club they were so far ahead of everyone else it wasnt funny and they have sat on their laurels for 2 years.. its created a bit of a dead rubber.
The merits/cons of P&R have been discussed to death, you have your view, I have mine and so there's no point discussing it further however there is one last point I feel deserves raising.
In the last decade or so clubs like Hull, Hudds, Wakey, Cas, Salford, KR have all spent time in the Championships. Now these clubs are big clubs and crowd pullers for the most part (compared to current chp clubs). On top of that SL has also been extended. You take 2 of these clubs, throw them back in the Chp and watch your attendance void fill, if there has been any negative effect at all? I dont have the previous say ten years av chp attendances to hand on most working days icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Dico "It might even be 9 years time but I believe it will happen; either from a conference system or a 2 tier system.
I've never suggested that no promotion hasn't hindered things somewhat, but its a new system, give it time. Next time I believe that 2 teams will be promoted.. you watch the scramble to tick boxes on/off field then, the competition will be there.
The problem you faced this time is that SL should really have been 15 clubs, or Widnes instead of one of Wakey/Cas (imo of course). As a club they were so far ahead of everyone else it wasnt funny and they have sat on their laurels for 2 years.. its created a bit of a dead rubber.
The merits/cons of P&R have been discussed to death, you have your view, I have mine and so there's no point discussing it further however there is one last point I feel deserves raising.
In the last decade or so clubs like Hull, Hudds, Wakey, Cas, Salford, KR have all spent time in the Championships. Now these clubs are big clubs and crowd pullers for the most part (compared to current chp clubs). On top of that SL has also been extended. You take 2 of these clubs, throw them back in the Chp and watch your attendance void fill, if there has been any negative effect at all? I dont have the previous say ten years av chp attendances to hand on most working days
It would be a last resort of course. However I don't want our club (and others) to wither and die at the hands of the RFL. At the end of the day most of our fans want our club (est 187icon_cool.gif to be a top rugby team playing in the top tier and accepting our fate in a no-mark second tier with no promotion is not an option in the long run. Otherwise we might as well be an amateur team (for which we already have two of the best in the UK)

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