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I suppose this saga will go down, as 'one we will never really know the truth on'. However its pretty rife that Gray and Keys have been treating production staff like garbage for years and in truth under Vik Wakeling they 'got away with stuff' that new exec Barnie clearly didnt like and like plenty idiots if you give them enough rope.............

Ive spent many hours this week in the car listening to all this and I feel in truth both should have been sacked for their original total disrespect to the lady running the line on Sat. This in my opinion wasnt banter or tongue in cheek it was blatant male chauvinisms, how dare a female run around on my grass attitude. The comment of should we go and explain the offside rule was quite ironic considering Sian got everything 100% correct.

To survive the above was a miracle but it was clear to me then that the duo didn’t have many friends left in high places to save them and the mystery you tube subscriber who effectively finished them off with the video coverage of Gray's crude comments to Charlotte were quite unbelievable.

Only a handful of sky employees could have got that footage and effectively that was the last nail in Gray and Keys coffin.

Not sure who advises Keys but that hour on talk sport this afternoon will probably ensure his media career was over, had he been on for 15 mins I might have just believed he was sorry and it was a one off mistake but is blatant attempts to justify some of the comments during the full hour just made his position untenable.

However, I do have sympathy when the England captain starts slagging them off on twitter, people in glass houses ...............

Obviously I don’t know Gray and Keys so on face value they appeared to be very good at their job for 20 years and have enhanced sports broadcasting to new levels but just maybe they got too big for their boots, and the comments Keys made to a new junior production member of staff to try and get him to remove chewing gum from his shoe was disgraceful.

Final word on this is why did it take sky 6 weeks to take action against Gray/Keys for their comments against Charlotte?????

Just a little joke that has landed in my mobile :-

………..I’m loving the new Fifa 11 game for the Xbox every time the mrs comes out of the kitchen to pick up the controller Andy Gray comes on the screen and bellows…. Get back in the f ing kitchen love…………..

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Pathetic!

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Quote: Mookachaka "He shoulden't of been sacked!!!! Doe's no one have a sense of humour anymore? They don't want normal people on TV thats all, they want puppets who get dictated too, therefore Gray must go! Its ridiculous, look at all the PC people on TV now, its all biased and has an agenda...... Don't be dumbed down, ditch TV and read History books
I they want to really dumb down they could give you a job.

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Free speach ey, I love it...... Theres an agenda that they aren't telling us about, they don't want normal everyday people on TV who can think for themselves, they want puppets.........

If you've ever been into a pub, then you'd know that worse things are said than that...... I think this nation needs to get a sense of humour icon_smile.gif

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



No such thing as free speech and there never has been.

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Quote: Mookachaka "Free speach ey, I love it...... Theres an agenda that they aren't telling us about, they don't want normal everyday people on TV who can think for themselves, they want puppets.........

If you've ever been into a pub, then you'd know that worse things are said than that...... I think this nation needs to get a sense of humour

NO - it simply needs to stop giving into the PC brigade ! icon_mad.gif

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Nowt to do with the PC Brigade it is about common decency and losing credibility.

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Common decency and credibility, why is there page 3 girls? Why do we have prostitution? Why do we have strip clubs? Maybe they should think about stopping these before sacking Gray, women tell jokes about men as well its natural....... Theres something behind the story which the media isn't telling us I'm sure.....

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



perhaps he's just a pig and the people who worked with him had finally had enough.

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Quote: reffy "Nowt to do with the PC Brigade it is about common decency and losing credibility.'"



when you're picking up £1.7 million per year decency doesn't come into it - as for their credibility,they were becoming old-hat,predictable & utterly boring - it is definitely time for a change...well done SKY & Keys for doing the decent thing...

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Sky needs left wing liberals working for them, therefore Gray must go! So its ok to have Pakistani's getting our young girls hooked on heroin and selling them into prostituion, but Gray can't tell a joke..... sums up the society we live in

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Quote: Mookachaka "Sky needs left wing liberals working for them, therefore Gray must go! So its ok to have Pakistani's getting our young girls hooked on heroin and selling them into prostituion, but Gray can't tell a joke..... sums up the society we live in'"


But it isn't is it ? , as the recent convictions prove

Our country isn't perfect , none are , but it's still better than most

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Quote: Mookachaka "Sky needs left wing liberals working for them, therefore Gray must go! So its ok to have Pakistani's getting our young girls hooked on heroin and selling them into prostituion, but Gray can't tell a joke..sums up the society we live in'"


I hope uk society isn't summed up by people like you ! and please don't make a sweeping generalisation about one particular race - you're insulting the vast majority of the Pakistani community icon_mad.gif

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Quote: sanjunien "I hope uk society isn't summed up by people like you ! and please don't make a sweeping generalisation about one particular race - you're insulting the vast majority of the Pakistani community
It isnt...and thats two of you now who've now pandered to his agenda.

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Quote: j.c "It isnt...and thats two of you now who've now pandered to his agenda.'"



true but he does have a point when he says there is more behind all of this than we are being told - maybe one day we will learn the truth about the whole fiasco ?

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