After last season it's got to be back to basics. You have to learn to walk before you can run. The first half I was mesmerised with the number of angles we were running. Didn't see that at all last season Second half we lost that! Gotta take the positives out of every game!

I think you are right there.

It was almost like the HT talk went OK no fancy stuff we,ll play it close for 20 minutes then we,ll batter this bunch of kids.

Never underestimate your opponent springs to mind.

Never underestimate desire, enthusiasm, youth and a will to preserve a record!

Robbie AND Alf Ridyard ??

Seems Robbie didn't buy a beanie hat.

Well after reading some of the stuff on here Im convinced there was half a dozen games going on today and we were all at different ones, ive watched it twice now and some of the comments about certain players and parts of the game well to be honest they are unjustified if not downright laughable.

i noticed wigans young lads knocked him backwards EVERY time he took the ball up.........lots of heart, but sadly nowhere near big enough

You've lost us , Ben Davies was playing for the W1g4n team , so who were you reffering to ?

he highlighted macgraffs name in the post so i would think hes referring to him

Im a warrington fan living in leigh and would gladly go and support leigh when the wire arent playing or have already played, I have been a few times and would not go again due to the price of the game the qaulity of rugby and the lack of atmosphere. Not having a pop at the true loyal fans but the club itself.

Fair enough but to improve atmosphere fans need something to cheer about. We will see if that happens and the appointment of Ian Millward seems to me to be a step in the right direction.

To be fair at the end of last season as we were attempting to stave off relegation the atmosphere was quite good.

I think some comments are not doing these wigan up and coming stars justice they where well organised especially defensively their tackling was great and their core skills was excellent, this team lost twice all last season and i think they have only lost about 5 in 2 seasons, a very well coached dissiplined side i didnt expect to roll them over easy everyone of them lads has an eye on the first team i also think our lads will take more out of that game than being mauled by 50 points against wigans first team.

lost 30-0 at Whitehaven last season. We were crap = end of.

C'mon Matt never let facts get in the way of a good moan, for mine it was a good workout against a well drilled well coached fit enthusiastic skillfull team some of whose players I would have with us now if possible.

Looks like the 'Millward factor' has gone before its started according to some.