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Quote: TV BOY "They will be. I have to say the atmosphere was nil in there today. One man said behind me said that there was no atmosphere and I felt like saying why dont you do something about it then, but I was sat there silent. The PA had no build up to the teams coming on the field and our mascot is as entertaining as a funeral. Bring back Parky Pig and his hovercraft.
Playing like we did today and winning against the top teams will bring so many in but the club need to start putting together an initiative to attract families. I hate being sat near fans with drums and trumpets but we need that sort of thing. I stood near the tunnel and looked at the players faces as they came off the field and to me they looked let down by us all. They played very well but looked deflated. I think I will change my ST to the north stand.'"



The biggest problem with RL outside SL

Also new stadia make it even worse with only 2 stands in use

What is needed is all the clubs to sit down together [ without any RFL presence ] and discuss how they are going to make the competitions they are playing in attractive to fans

A ' leap of faith ' is required by the clubs directors , if they dont have that in them then professional RL outside SL will wither and die

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Quote: FredParky "Funny I thought the final score was all that counted, whats the obsession with attendances?'"


The idiotic response of a fool..............May I be so kind to point out that the LSV attendances are in actual fact everything to our future !!

Does anyone know if the free u11's ST's are included in the figure posted on sporting life? If so I would say it's rather worrying.

As it happens a regular member of our group made the decision that todays game did not warrant £14 especially in todays non P&R environment and stayed away, he did meet up with us all later on and the scoreline did actually support his judgement.

As Matt stated 1,300 is purely and simply not sustainable. A huge concern I am sure.

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come on, its almost impossible to produce a bouncing atmosphere with less than 1500 of us in a 12600 stadium, with no away fans, in a one sided romp. I personally was not looking forward to today's game, as i hate predictable games, and today was one of those games, but the lads did their best to entertain us, and i for one was entertained, thought we played really well, and in the past we would of took our foot of the peddle, but not todsay they kept going and smashed the skolars, as all good teams should do when you have a team on the ropes, what ever the club did or did not do they would of been struggling to drag many more fans in today, so well done lads, and i hope they don't feel let down by us, because as a fan of 30 years i am sure i can think of shed loads of times i've been let down by my team.

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I think people aren,t being realistic about todays turn out.

With respect to Skolars they aren,t the most crowd pulling of opponents for what most Leythers would expect to be a rather one sided game.

Its still a couple of hundred better than last time we played em. I think I,m right here, but maybe not, Corporate attendees aren,t included.

A few seasons ago the biggest club in the world (HKR who else) were attracting similar crowds for League games.

Provided the team play attractive rugby I for one think crowds will start to increase game on game. Even more so if we put a string of wins together.

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Quote: leighonardo "The idiotic response of a fool.'"


Pray tell us oh knowledgable one how anyone on here can alter what has been, and what YOU have done to boost todays attendance - not that it matters one little bit as what has been has now gone, if people weren't as bothered about prematch boozing rituals and more concerned about really helping thier club then hey we may be a SL team in 3 years, now what was that about being a fool, but like the saying goes it takes one to know one icon_rolleyes.gif

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Their club put 70+ points on the scoreboard and people are still whining.

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Quote: alex biscuit shoulders "Their club put 70+ points on the scoreboard and people are still whining.'"


Who's whining?

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Quote: FredParky "Pray tell us oh knowledgable one how anyone on here can alter what has been, and what YOU have done to boost todays attendance - not that it matters one little bit as what has been has now gone, if people weren't as bothered about prematch boozing rituals and more concerned about really helping thier club then hey we may be a SL team in 3 years, now what was that about being a fool, but like the saying goes it takes one to know one
Did I say I could alter what has been? No. Are we allowed to discuss a reasonable / sensible / simple question on todays attendance? Well no not according to you. Get down off your self inflated pedestal for one minite and you may realise that to some, todays attendance was more important than the scoreline. It was for me, personally I would take losing every single match this season in return for a average crowd of 4,000. I would find the long term future far more encouraging. We were always going to struggle today and I accept that but if you think 1,300 attendances are of no importance then I'm not going to spell it out to you especially if a certain person was to walk away.

FYI - I do quite a bit for Leigh RLFC, some of us do not feel the need to broadcast it from the rooftops every single day icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: leighonardo "Did I say I could alter what has been? No. Are we allowed to discuss a reasonable / sensible / simple question on todays attendance? Well no not according to you. Get down off your self inflated pedestal for one minite and you may realise that to some, todays attendance was more important than the scoreline. It was for me, personally I would take losing every single match this season in return for a average crowd of 4,000. I would find the long term future far more encouraging. We were always going to struggle today and I accept that but if you think 1,300 attendances are of no importance then I'm not going to spell it out to you especially if a certain person was to walk away.

FYI - I do quite a bit for Leigh RLFC, some of us do not feel the need to broadcast it from the rooftops every single day
The idiotic response of a fool.... you said it pal not I you get a lot in div 1.

as for your second rant, heard it all before still means sod all without proof get an extra pint down your neck and wind it in.

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Quote: frankb "I think people aren,t being realistic about todays turn out.

With respect to Skolars they aren,t the most crowd pulling of opponents for what most Leythers would expect to be a rather one sided game.

Its still a couple of hundred better than last time we played em. I think I,m right here, but maybe not, Corporate attendees aren,t included.

A few seasons ago the biggest club in the world (HKR who else) were attracting similar crowds for League games.

Provided the team play attractive rugby I for one think crowds will start to increase game on game. Even more so if we put a string of wins together.'"


Totally agree, also don't think folk are that ar$ed about the group stages of this comp......

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Quote: POPMAN "Totally agree, also don't think folk are that ar$ed about the group stages of this comp......'"


Agreed and I don't think we'd have had so many on at HP.

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Quote: Starbug "Had conversations today with one fan who said that 14 quid was too much for a game against a team like the Skolars

Which is possibly true , but then a match against W1g4n [ even a friendly ] or a match against Widnes or Fax maybe should be worth more
Here's the problem (which I know Starbug is well aware of). At 1375 attendance paying £14 (I'm ignoring concessions, as the point still holds...) then the revenue in should be £19,250.

If, say, we dropped the price to a tenner, we'd need to add 550 on the gate just to bring in the same amount. As I understand it, we don't make any money from 'secondary spend' (i.e. food and drink, or carparking), so there's a difficult decision to make in terms of pricing.

The RL market is price sensitive... but to what degree?? I was coaching my Exeter side on Sunday (Exeter Uni 2 beat Oxford 2 by 48-16!) so I couldn't go, and I'd pay whatever it costs to see any opposition if I was travelling up... but how many people who went to Wigan but not Skolars, would have been there if it had been £4 cheaper????

Answers on a postcard to Mr A Thomas....

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Quote: FredParky "get an extra pint down your neck and wind it in.'"



I 100% agree. Thankfully then, I am somewhat reassured that I don't actually know you icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wembley71 "Here's the problem (which I know Starbug is well aware of). At 1375 attendance paying £14 (I'm ignoring concessions, as the point still holds...) then the revenue in should be £19,250.

If, say, we dropped the price to a tenner, we'd need to add 550 on the gate just to bring in the same amount. As I understand it, we don't make any money from 'secondary spend' (i.e. food and drink, or carparking), so there's a difficult decision to make in terms of pricing.

The RL market is price sensitive... but to what degree?? I was coaching my Exeter side on Sunday (Exeter Uni 2 beat Oxford 2 by 48-16!) so I couldn't go, and I'd pay whatever it costs to see any opposition if I was travelling up... but how many people who went to Wigan but not Skolars, would have been there if it had been £4 cheaper????

Answers on a postcard to Mr A Thomas....'"


Heres a better one....750 Adult ST's 400 freebies to u11's, another 400 concessions/12+'s equals more than the gate declared, so did anyone buy a match ticket ???? In which case what have we to lose.

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I know lots who for one reason or other did not go yesterday but will be at the Haven game.

Why get concerned about a crowd for a match that means nothing in a competition that most do not like, if we only get less than 1500 when the league starts then you can worry.

The rugby played yesterday was excellent and so what a few passes went astray,you expect this when the lads tried to keep the ball alive, I'm sure they won't do the Harlem Globetrotters bit against better teams.

I enjoyed myself and been to Leigh games recently when the crowd has been 3 times bigger and hated the game, its whats in front of you that I'm concerned with not how many sit at the side of me.

Its a long haul and weekly analysis in detail of whats negative and positive are tedious , I for one think this messageboard is getting like a soap opera, the same old tripe week in week out.

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