tell me then how the game will survive financially wihout sky.

who will show live games and match their money

how will clubs keep their top players from going rah rah

and finally with the exception of wigan i would guess every super league club has better attendances than the year before sky came in

Like I said were does the money go?

Players..yes

So all these suppose wonderful players will flood to union...don't make me laugh

Like I said show me were we have improved under sky?

Do you know what he true attendace figures are for the clubs when you take out the free tickets and reduce kids entrance?

Answer the challenge cup attendances thats the true figure as all have to pay so people don't take the kids along...great we are getting youngsters watching but the million dolar question is ...over the years how many continue to watch once they have to pay?



For all the million sky have paid the rfl under sl have squandered the lot...games dieing in the heartland..internationally we are rated 3rd or even 4th

So please list the benefits we have now we didn't have before

SO is super league working now? celtic clowns have won again and the mighty englansd thrashed the world champoin snail eaters france?

Actually, it continues to fall. Recently speedway and tennis have attracted bigger viewings than SL! No, SL and franchising isn't working and won't work, but the idea that by cancelling our subscriptions it'll make any difference is unlikely. RL's problem is that it is unfashionable. Reducing P&R has made it more elitist whereas the RFU, realising that, have strengthened the second tier. The RFL is too stupid to realise that the franchise model (such as the Magners League) is a financial disaster area with even famous clubs like Cardiff and Llanelli unable to fill stadia for league games.

My dad started this thread 2 years ago just before he died,seems he was right after all

rip rantunrave

Tipster Ste you have two usernames

I recently cancelled sky sports and won't be getting it back until the RFL brings back automatic P&R for the best team(s) on the pitch

The longer the RFL sticks with the 4 year cycled licensing with behind closed door decision making, the more NL fans are going to get annoyed. I wonder what excuse will be used to deny us access in 2015

Much as it pains me to say it - f it gets to the point where there will never be regular P&R again, clubs like Leigh, Fev, Barrow etc might be best to consider whether to threaten en masse to switch back to RU, if it were the only chance we could be a top flight rugby club again. I'd rather see Leigh Rugby est 1878 go back to RU and aim for their top flight, than die a death with no hope of ever being in the top flight, and lose all our youngsters to notable predators like Wire, Salford and Saints.

Leigh is a proud founder member of the NU with heritage that pre-dates it. We are one of the oldest professional rugby clubs in the world. We are a big club and with our facilities, geography, and pure rugby talent would be more than welcome in RU. Why should we fade away into obscurity, when our local leigh stars could play on a top stage and be famous.

Forgive me for this heresy - but the RFL have driven me to thinking like this..........

Think its time to bring me owd dad thread back to the top,seems he was right