I think dropping Ryan WAS addressing the defensive problem. He was the worst offender vs Batley, although by no means the only one!

Agree though that our line defence hasn't been up to scratch the last 2 weeks. Oldham's 3rd try was pretty unavoidable to be fair, we had the player wrapped up and he lost the ball backwards in the tackle and they reacted 1st, picked it up and just dove over. But they didn't get near our line often at all so to concede 3 is disappointing.

Another DAFT topic !!!

Budgie another daft OP ,and they say I'm daft.

We ave conceded 7 tries against Batley and Oldham.

It is not good enough.

I think most of us know who has the worst defence in our side and it is not Ryan.

Leave the sensible posts to the level headed posters young man.

I agree our defence out wide is weak, Oldham's 1st try should have been stopped. I'd send our wingers & centres off to tackling & wrestling practice with the forwards. I do think defence was our weak point last season, we seemed to have a "It's OK if we concede we'll just score more than them" attitude which just doesn't work against SL teams, they'll just pin you down on your own try line. Think we need to realise that a set defended on our own try line is worth just as much (if not more) than a try scored. Said before I'm not too bothered about running up big scores against lesser Championship teams this year I'd far rather us try to nil them, will be far better practice for the Super 8s. Need to play every minute of every game as if it's nil-nil.

Can't believe I am reading this. They scored 3 tries, one rather fortunately. We scored one of the best tries I have ever seen straight from the kicks off. There is not a single team anywhere in RL that would even think about that move, we pulled it of, and it isn't the first time we have done it. We punched holes in them all day. But for the odd decision from the ref, and some dropped ball we could have scored 80.

What has best try, punched holes and could have scored 80 got to do with the topic. What did you think about the defence?

Defensively we were not to bad. Like I said three tries. One was fortunate, one was a mismatch. All where from close range. Not like they where making breaks all the time.

Our defence is fine - quite brutal in my opinion, in the opposition half of the field. We do seem 'soft' though, in our own 22. (or whatever it is these days)

I agree. I've never seen a Leigh side defend in this manner. I almost feel sorry for the opposition when I see some of the hits go in. Brutal is indeed the word. As an aside, the discipline that we are showing this season also needs to be applauded.

Well that is what I mean't' in our 20 metres from our try line it is soft. Needs sorting quick imo.

I'm not worried about it at the moment. Only two games into the season. What I would like to see though is stopping teams making easy yards in the middle. We need to move up to them and not stop and wait for them to come to us. But like I say, two games into a season. It will be reet.

Hope so & as you say it's early days. However my worry is if we don't do it now we can't suddenly start doing it when we face SL teams who'll really punish us for it. The sooner we get it sorted the more practice we'll have and so the better we'll be when it matters.