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It's easy to criticise when things mean so much and things hinge on small margins of error. Glad to see Hopkins back as we need his energy in attack. Stewart is a difficult one as defensively he is good but has been disappointing in attack. Be good to see Clare but without match fitness could be a risk perhaps that is why we have not seen him.

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Quote: Leyther14 "It's easy to criticise when things mean so much and things hinge on small margins of error. Glad to see Hopkins back as we need his energy in attack. Stewart is a difficult one as defensively he is good but has been disappointing in attack. Be good to see Clare but without match fitness could be a risk perhaps that is why we have not seen him.'"



Stewart is only playing the way he is being told to play. That isnt his fault.

Defensively, he is excellent.

He needs to stop playing as another halfback and run hard on the Fringes like he did for Manly and Catalans.

Hopkins is excellent going forward and difficult to stop. Just needs to ensure that he keeps hold of the ball as he is prone to 'dropsies'.

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Quote: Snowy "Stewart is only playing the way he is being told to play. That isnt his fault.

Defensively, he is excellent.

He needs to stop playing as another halfback and run hard on the Fringes like he did for Manly and Catalans.

Hopkins is excellent going forward and difficult to stop. Just needs to ensure that he keeps hold of the ball as he is prone to 'dropsies'.'"


Yes be good to see him running wider like Reni did but they seem to use Vea in that position. Whoever plays we need to be more expansive in.attack get teams on the back foot as we did last year. An option to add more creativity would be Mortmer to 9 and Reynolds at 6.... Thoughts?

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She carries on through it all...... She's a Waterfall:



Quote: GUBRATS "Now now Col , you know what it's like , we have to have somebody to blame , somebody to crucify , no other teams players make mistakes only ours 1. The ref is a cheat and deliberately shows bias towards the opposition. There can be no other explanation.
2. The RFL/SL have an agenda to include Toronto Bradford Toulouse (pick one) at the expense of our club. There can be no other explanation.
Those are the rules as they stand cocker icon_lol.gif

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Quote: L111eyther14 "Yes be good to see him running wider like Reni did but they seem to use Vea in that position. Whoever plays we need to be more expansive in.attack get teams on the back foot as we did last year. An option to add more creativity would be Mortmer to 9 and Reynolds at 6.... Thoughts?'"

No,No,No!!! Just when we have got a proper No.6 with a more than adequate tactical kicking game.

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Quote: Leyther14 " An option to add more creativity would be Mortmer to 9 and Reynolds at 6.... Thoughts?'"


My thoughts are that I have a little feeling it is how we will run on Saturday.

Reynolds and Drinkwater 6 and 7 with Mortimer / Higham at hooker.

All in my opinion, of course .

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "those are the rules Steve.
1. The ref is a cheat and deliberately shows bias towards the opposition. There can be no other explanation.
2. The RFL/SL have an agenda to include Toronto Bradford Toulouse (pick one) at the expense of our club. There can be no other explanation.
Those are the rules as they stand cocker
Who provided you with those rules. 'Kirkhall' by any chance icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Snowy "Stewart is only playing the way he is being told to play. That isnt his fault.

Defensively, he is excellent.

He needs to stop playing as another halfback and run hard on the Fringes like he did for Manly and Catalans.

Hopkins is excellent going forward and difficult to stop. Just needs to ensure that he keeps hold of the ball as he is prone to 'dropsies'.'"


I could understand the idea of a ball playing 13 at the start of last season when we Chase and Brierley at half back, and tried Paterson at 13. Problem is, it didn't work and Paterson hit his best form when moved to second row outside of Ridyard on the right.

Cannot for the life of me understand why the coach is persisting with Stewart in that role. With Hock, Acton and Weston missing we can't really carry a half back in the middles.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My thoughts are that I have a little feeling it is how we will run on Saturday.

Reynolds and Drinkwater 6 and 7 with Mortimer / Higham at hooker.

All in my opinion, of course .'"


Would feel like a selection based on whose omission would cause least noise rather than best players in each position.

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Quote: GUBRATS "Now now Col , you know what it's like , we have to have somebody to blame , somebody to crucify , no other teams players make mistakes only ours Not a question of crucifying anyone. Each game is so crucial now and there is no time for sentiment or giving second chances. I am entitled to my opinion and not looking to blame people, Higson has his strengths but too many times he has been caught out of position defending and this has led to tries by opposing wingers.

Stewart was brought into to make a major impact which he did while playing in the NRL. I accept his defence is strong, but there are lots of forwards who can tackle. I think I am entitled to have expected more from him expansively.

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Quote: Markski55 "Not a question of crucifying anyone. Each game is so crucial now and there is no time for sentiment or giving second chances. I am entitled to my opinion and not looking to blame people, Higson has his strengths but too many times he has been caught out of position defending and this has led to tries by opposing wingers.

Stewart was brought into to make a major impact which he did while playing in the NRL. I accept his defence is strong, but there are lots of forwards who can tackle. I think I am entitled to have expected more from him expansively.'"

Mark as with everyone you are fully entitled to your opinion, ,if Stewart is playing to orders it's time it changed because these tactics are NOT working,a loss tomorrow and we are in the Brown stuff,with time running out.
Some blame players others blame Refs ,again we all have opinions. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Markski55 "Not a question of crucifying anyone. Each game is so crucial now and there is no time for sentiment or giving second chances. I am entitled to my opinion and not looking to blame people, Higson has his strengths but too many times he has been caught out of position defending and this has led to tries by opposing wingers.

Stewart was brought into to make a major impact which he did while playing in the NRL. I accept his defence is strong, but there are lots of forwards who can tackle. I think I am entitled to have expected more from him expansively.'"


At this stage all that matters is super league survival in everyone's interests as players contracts on the line. No one should take issue if not selected all squad and fans need to stand together form coming weeks. Not finishing bottom in our first season is decent have start, we have gained slot of experience to build on next year.

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Onwards and upwards - LTID:



Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My thoughts are that I have a little feeling it is how we will run on Saturday.

Reynolds and Drinkwater 6 and 7 with Mortimer / Higham at hooker.

All in my opinion, of course .'"


Do you you really feel this is the time to be tinkering about with pivotal positions??

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My thoughts are that I have a little feeling it is how we will run on Saturday.

Reynolds and Drinkwater 6 and 7 with Mortimer / Higham at hooker.

All in my opinion, of course .'"


Agree with 6 and 7 as they've desperately missed a stand-off. Surely Pelissier will be hooker alongside Higham as it's his old stomping ground.

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Game day come on lads lets get the win this is a must win or we will be dragged into dog fight with championship sides and we don't want that

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