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Quote: Michael_Ward "Yes, but the f/t contracts offered to younger players are often pitiful, and far less than the player could earn with a p/t contract with Leigh and a f/t job.

It's not a scenario that covers everyone, but it's my opinion that it really must shorten our odds on landing these players. It also gets the word out that Leigh is not a bad option for local young players.

All IMHO of course.'"


I don’t completely disagree, but why do we need the ‘Partnership’ for this to happen? Do kids at say Saints not know if they don’t make it there that Leigh have excellent facilities and would be a better option than either giving up the game or going back to Blackbrook etc?

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We don't need more D\C's from Wigan. If I played in that Wigan team last night even I'd look good. I didnt see any Wigan youngster stand out when the shoes on the other foot and we thrashed them in the preseason friendly.

What we need is someone with plenty of money and drive to take the club forward not some kids from Wigan.

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Fylde Warrior...it is the fault of the RFL.
When there was still promotion, a few of the TOP sides in National League were full time as they had the backing/sponsorship, because SL was potentially only 12 months away. Now, thanks to the licensing system, it does NOT matter if you can't compete with a SL side....ask Widnes - we put 50 points past them twice in the season that they got 'invited' into the promised land.
Thanks for your input mate.

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Quote: mikeefreedom "What we need is someone with plenty of money and drive to take the club forward not some kids from Wigan.'"


That's the ideal option. However, the person or people with money to give away aren't there - they may be interested, but can't risk it in the current economic climate. It's a tough ask right now.

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Quote: Brian Wood "Perhaps Fylde Warrior should forget stating the "bleeding obvious" and concentrate his fire on the RFL for allowing such a gulf to develop between two clubs who used to compete on an equal footing by completely devaluing the Championship and the clubs in it. And don't say Wigan can do without Leigh

Brian the moment you mentioned the crowd you lost any validity in your argument. More Leythers turned out for what was their Wembley. Unfortunately; Leigh and this so called great rivalry proved more unattractive to Wiganers and neutrals than any other fixture. Even the likes of London and Catalan are bigger 'draws' for Wiganers than Leigh.

The notion of a great rivalry is dead in the water, a red herring. I would agree that franchising / no P & R has killed it but to suggest Wigan need Leigh is rather silly.

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Brian the moment you mentioned the crowd you lost any validity in your argument. More Leythers turned out for what was their Wembley. Unfortunately; Leigh and this so called great rivalry proved more unattractive to Wiganers and neutrals than any other fixture. Even the likes of London and Catalan are bigger 'draws' for Wiganers than Leigh.

The notion of a great rivalry is dead in the water, a red herring. I would agree that franchising / no P & R has killed it but to suggest Wigan need Leigh is rather silly.'"



Come on Wiganers did not attend because they could not use their season tickets and thought tickets were too expensive. Had you played Cats Broncos or Salford at this round of the Challenge cup the atmosphere and the crowd would have been better ? You know the answer.

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Fylde Warrior = FULL OF S**T !
Enjoying yer 15 minutes of FAME on our board ???
I got banned from your forum for asking years ago 'are you going to break the salary cap again this season' ?
Obviously our moderators are not tarts.

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "No doubting his effort but apart from his try he struggled and should be retired and coaching. He was an excellent player bar some illegal challenges but his day has long since gone.'"


Parker and Brierley (who could hardly walk this morning) were at LSV at 9am coaching the 20's, while the molly coddled Wigan players were tucked up in bed.

Remember, our players do a full days work, then train at night, then eat sleep and repeat all week for 1/30th of what Tomkins earns, so I have nothing but respect for our players.

We are a team with no money to spend but we always stick together.
Leigh are a team in their own right whichever division we are in.

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Quote: salfordlad "Come on Wiganers did not attend because they could not use their season tickets and thought tickets were too expensive. Had you played Cats Broncos or Salford at this round of the Challenge cup the atmosphere and the crowd would have been better ? You know the answer.'"


Wiganers did not attend because it was a none event. If the RFL still had a free ticket system in the early CC then the crod would not have been thet different. The price / expense whilst brought up by Wiganers whomever is just an excuse. Leigh did not attract Wiganers to the game and nor did the thought of certain defeat attract amore than 1200 Leythers either.

Would the crowd have been better? Hard to say. More Wiganers would have watched Wigan v Cats, Broncos or Salford than v Leigh because the quality of opponent would have been much better. So called rivalry did not attract Wiganers tonight. The atmosphere? In the same situation NO 100% Can you imagine what bar stewards we Wigan fans would have looked like chanting and mocking 'David' in such a meaningless game.

If the game is exciting, close then fans shout / chant. Similarly they chant at match officials. At walkover matches Wigan fans never chant.

The question for Leigh is no Wigan or SL. Forget that nonsense but how can you create a team to compete v Featherstone, Halifax or Sheffield. That is the real world, a real world that saw Leigh destroyed the previous week by Halifax. Leigh seem a million miles from the best Championship teams.

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Quote: Last Chance Saloon "Parker and Brierley (who could hardly walk this morning) were at LSV at 9am coaching the 20's, while the molly coddled Wigan players were tucked up in bed.

Remember, our players do a full days work, then train at night, then eat sleep and repeat all week for 1/30th of what Tomkins earns, so I have nothing but respect for our players.

We are a team with no money to spend but we always stick together.
Leigh are a team in their own right whichever division we are in.'"


An excellent post bar the silly jibe. Yes, the gulf was frightening and we all know the reason, full time more talented v part time less talented, too old. It was sad to watch that last night and yet you come on forums like this and think did I go to the same game as these posters. Leigh were treated with disdain, youngsters given debuts, players rested, players not even trying at times yet not a damn thing Leigh could do about it. Leigh could not make any yards whatsoever, could not win contact either in defence or attack, were getting bounced around by Charnley and Tomkins yet to hear many Leythers here you were fantastic and played a great game. Get real, it is that delusion that sees Halifax put 60 past you, Sheffield and Featherstone beat you easily.

Leigh SL 2014 "We intend to deliver the most compelling, exciting, innovative, and first class performances within the Championship – both on and off the pitch, together with our partners in Leigh Sports Village, our supporters and the community. We beLEIGHve that we will be the only clear and logical choice for the RFL to nominate Leigh Centurions for Super League in 2014" is a sick joke. You cannot even compete at a Championship Level yet your fans begrudge taking advantage of help and assistance offered to them. Bar Brierley your backline is painfully slow and will not threaten Championship teams. McNally is a pale shadow of the youngster that turned pro. Maden should be retired. Littler is a forward at best. Gardner is big but soft. Even Brierley lack the inventiveness he came into the pro ranks with. Surely Leigh would be better with some genuine fast basic backs. Burgess a kid at Wigan not ready for SL could lighjt up many a championship game. If you think Ridyard and Brierley are good, Williams and Hampshire although not ready for SL are already better.

Nobody in the Leigh squad is a SL quality player. The closest is Brierley.

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "The question for Leigh is no Wigan or SL. Forget that nonsense but how can you create a team to compete v Featherstone, Halifax or Sheffield. That is the real world, a real world that saw Leigh destroyed the previous week by Halifax. Leigh seem a million miles from the best Championship teams.'"


And what, sir, would it matter if we did? We might be crowned 15th best team in the land and then be left, possibly forever and at the RFL's whim, only able to match that feat at the very best?

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Wiganers did not attend because it was a none event. If the RFL still had a free ticket system in the early CC then the crod would not have been thet different. The price / expense whilst brought up by Wiganers whomever is just an excuse. Leigh did not attract Wiganers to the game and nor did the thought of certain defeat attract amore than 1200 Leythers either.'"


That probably explains why in last years CCQF v St Helens at the Pie Dome the attendance was 12,864 ,as opposed to the Home league fixture v Saints ... att 21,552.
I wonder if the disparity in both attendances was down to the quality of opposition or as `salfordlad` explained was due to ST holders having to pay.

Regards having a dig at our pitiful turnout yesterday, I`d be more concerned about your own fickle fans not attending.

Now have you anywhere else to go rather than bore the pants of the rest of us.

Bye Troll..... icon_wave.gif

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Wiganers did not attend because it was a none event. If the RFL still had a free ticket system in the early CC then the crod would not have been thet different. The price / expense whilst brought up by Wiganers whomever is just an excuse. Leigh did not attract Wiganers to the game and nor did the thought of certain defeat attract amore than 1200 Leythers either.

Would the crowd have been better? Hard to say. More Wiganers would have watched Wigan v Cats, Broncos or Salford than v Leigh because the quality of opponent would have been much better. So called rivalry did not attract Wiganers tonight. The atmosphere? In the same situation NO 100% Can you imagine what bar stewards we Wigan fans would have looked like chanting and mocking 'David' in such a meaningless game.

If the game is exciting, close then fans shout / chant. Similarly they chant at match officials. At walkover matches Wigan fans never chant.

The question for Leigh is no Wigan or SL. Forget that nonsense but how can you create a team to compete v Featherstone, Halifax or Sheffield. That is the real world, a real world that saw Leigh destroyed the previous week by Halifax. Leigh seem a million miles from the best Championship teams.'"


Whilst I agree we are currently struggling to match Sheffield, Halifax and Featherstone, it's interesting to note that Featherstone, on their way to the League Leaders title last season, conceded 60 points to both Sheffield and Halifax!

The reason we were so pleased with last night was that we were so much better than the previous week, and we expected to concede considerably more than the 60 you scored, based on the Halifax game. And, in honesty, it was great to see Tomkins, Charnley, Richards etc, in action.

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Quote: salfordlad "Come on Wiganers did not attend because they could not use their season tickets and thought tickets were too expensive. Had you played Cats Broncos or Salford at this round of the Challenge cup the atmosphere and the crowd would have been better ? You know the answer.'"


From reading the Pie board Frank ST holders had got in free at this stage in previous years so most refused to pay icon_surprised.gifops:

If they'd have drawn London or Les Cats they would have only had one stand open .

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Quote: Fylde_Warrior "An excellent post bar the silly jibe. Yes, the gulf was frightening and we all know the reason, full time more talented v part time less talented, too old. It was sad to watch that last night and yet you come on forums like this and think did I go to the same game as these posters. Leigh were treated with disdain, youngsters given debuts, players rested, players not even trying at times yet not a damn thing Leigh could do about it. Leigh could not make any yards whatsoever, could not win contact either in defence or attack, were getting bounced around by Charnley and Tomkins yet to hear many Leythers here you were fantastic and played a great game. Get real, it is that delusion that sees Halifax put 60 past you, Sheffield and Featherstone beat you easily.

Leigh SL 2014 "We intend to deliver the most compelling, exciting, innovative, and first class performances within the Championship – both on and off the pitch, together with our partners in Leigh Sports Village, our supporters and the community. We beLEIGHve that we will be the only clear and logical choice for the RFL to nominate Leigh Centurions for Super League in 2014" is a sick joke. You cannot even compete at a Championship Level yet your fans begrudge taking advantage of help and assistance offered to them. Bar Brierley your backline is painfully slow and will not threaten Championship teams. McNally is a pale shadow of the youngster that turned pro. Maden should be retired. Littler is a forward at best. Gardner is big but soft. Even Brierley lack the inventiveness he came into the pro ranks with. Surely Leigh would be better with some genuine fast basic backs. Burgess a kid at Wigan not ready for SL could lighjt up many a championship game. If you think Ridyard and Brierley are good, Williams and Hampshire although not ready for SL are already better.

Nobody in the Leigh squad is a SL quality player. The closest is Brierley.'"

Just spoke to a Wigan fan from work who went to the match and he paints a completely different picture to your version of the game, he did say the Leigh defence had no answer to Wigans attack but said at times Leigh were playing excellent on attack and throwing the ball about well.

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