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Quote: FredParky "Might have been J.C. wouldn't surprise me TBH as SL 'entrance' rules last time around was that a club shouldn't have been in liquidation/administartion to be admitted/allowed to stay in SL and they are dropping that one for them, again a lack of 'fairness' by the governing body.'"


Rubbish.
You need to learn the difference between SLE and the RFL.
The administration rule was dropped as the Crusaders arent the only club going down this road and if Leeds Rhinos lose the test case in court on behalf of the RFL they could well find themselves taking this option also. Turkeys don't vote for christmas.

I agree it should be a set standard rate accross the board, except for mitigating circumstances, like, what could happen with the Rhinos for example where it's said the one payment to HMRC would be in excess of £1 million.

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Quote: Dico "Rubbish.
You need to learn the difference between SLE and the RFL.
The administration rule was dropped as the Crusaders arent the only club going down this road and if Leeds Rhinos lose the test case in court on behalf of the RFL they could well find themselves taking this option also. Turkeys don't vote for christmas.

I agree it should be a set standard rate accross the board, except for mitigating circumstances, like, what could happen with the Rhinos for example where it's said the one payment to HMRC would be in excess of £1 million.'"


So you are suggesting that clubs that have been

1 Circumventing the Salary Cap

2 Avoiding paying Income Tax [ mine and yours money ]

Should not be punished ?

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so the corrupt tail is now officially wagging the dead dog, SLE fans need to know the difference between what is the law and what is lawfull if they think not paying the HMCR is fair, as it would seem the SLE clubs change the rules to suit themselves then the RFL take those rules and try and strictly apply them to the Championship clubs.

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But it WAS the law.
If they broke the law people would be in serious trouble.
As it stands the HMRC are engaging in a d*ck waving contest by punishing things retrospectively from 5 years ago.
If they want to close these loopholes; great, but as is typical with the government they want to play once upon a time game. Punishing from when the loopholes were closed - fair enough but then they'd have nothing to do with all their jobs for the boys

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Jobs for the boys? who the revenue men or the RFL men, cause Red Halls stuffed with 'Job for the boys'.

Notice you avoided Starbugs question

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I didnt dodge SB's question at all.
Anything done before the loophole was closed was within the law and within the rules of the game was it not? If it wasnt why has no club been brought up under a breach of the salary cap? Why are the RFL backing Leeds' court case?
Punishing for years before a loophole was closed is downright 'I can do it because im bigger than you'. Its like those salt shakers in Wolverhampton last week, you couldnt make it up. Government workers have nothing better to do than be a pest.

My dad used to work for a council; when he wasnt playing golf or table tennis on works time he still had little to do. These guys are just bored and need a hobby instead of picking on the little man that is RL. They should have just gone for Premiership Soccer outright and left us alone

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you are obviously a government worker then

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Nice response to the points raised..
But yes, I may as well be.

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Quote: Dico "I didnt dodge SB's question at all.
Anything done before the loophole was closed was within the law and within the rules of the game was it not? If it wasnt why has no club been brought up under a breach of the salary cap? Why are the RFL backing Leeds' court case?
Punishing for years before a loophole was closed is downright 'I can do it because im bigger than you'. Its like those salt shakers in Wolverhampton last week, you couldnt make it up. Government workers have nothing better to do than be a pest.

My dad used to work for a council; when he wasnt playing golf or table tennis on works time he still had little to do. These guys are just bored and need a hobby instead of picking on the little man that is RL. They should have just gone for Premiership Soccer outright and left us alone'"



We dont know yet do we , if they have broken the law , then they also have broken the salary cap rules as well , but are you suggesting that if it is all the clubs then that is ok ? , or if it is just a few of the bigger clubs then fine , that is ok as well

No it is not

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Well.. no.
How can you break a law that doesnt even exist?
Unless the rules are written down and clear how is anyone supposed to follow them?!

If it is deemed as a breach of the salary cap I think the RFL will brush it under the table as I bet there's about 7 clubs that have been doing it.

I still maintain you cant break a law that doesn't exist.

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Surely as far as the RFL are concerned they would class as illegal payments under the Salary Cap guidelines.....brush it under the carpet? What? and destroy possibly the final piece of credibility. They've already made licensing rules worthless by showing they can change them just BEFORE someone breaks them, now if they were to ignore the 'illegal' payments I don't think I could come up with a descriptive enough word for them. One club, seven clubs who cares. Actually caring less and less about SL.

Dico, I see Hicks has come out of retirement after one week. He was paid off and Wire felt they needed to say he had retired, whats up with just releasing him and paying up his contract (salary cap?)

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trouble being as the secret society that is SLE do not publish their 'laws' so they can change them to suit

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How can it be an illegal payment with no ruling???
Ah well im off to Australia for a month now so have fun without me kids icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Dico "How can it be an illegal payment with no ruling???
Ah well im off to Australia for a month now so have fun without me kids
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Enjoy your trip Mr D and if you really like it there why not move to Australia permanently?

Oh and do try to find somewhere to live where there is no internet connections please icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Dico "How can it be an illegal payment with no ruling???
Ah well im off to Australia for a month now so have fun without me kids
Illegal as far as the RFL are concerned i meant. Ok we'll go with payments that should really be counted on the Salary Cap, a bit like Hicks' payoff from Warrington. I assume because he was retiring and the new season hadn't started it doesn't count

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