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I live close to Wrexham where the Crusaders play, every home game cheap tickets are on sale plus loads of free ones available. The first few games the people of Wrexham turned up, but after that the crowds have decreased. Next season they will be in the top three of worst supported clubs in S.L. Its only a matter of time before they go bust.
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| Quote frankb="frankb"Well I am convinced that will happen because the relegated clubs income will drop alarmingly as will their attendances when they lose their franchise and their fan base realises they are going nowhere for at least 4 seasons. This is something I warned about when this ridiculous franchise system was introduced.
RL seems to be me to be run by people who have big ideas but seem to be incapable of realising the consequences of their decisions. It is similar to performance related bonuses given to mortgage brokers in banks. Short sighted managers at banks want to see their buisness booming so they tell their brokers for every mortgage you sell you get a bonus.Well we know what happened to our banks.
We also know what has happened to the Governor of the Bank of England who oversaw this catastrophe. He is still in his job as will the guy who is running the RFL will be when it all goes wotsits up and I would guess neither of them know the LSV exists even though one has actually been there.
Professional RL in the North of England has 3 clubs making a profit.None in London none in France and certainly not one in Wales.[/quo
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| Quote frankb="frankb"Well I am convinced that will happen because the relegated clubs income will drop alarmingly as will their attendances when they lose their franchise and their fan base realises they are going nowhere for at least 4 seasons. This is something I warned about when this ridiculous franchise system was introduced.
RL seems to be me to be run by people who have big ideas but seem to be incapable of realising the consequences of their decisions. It is similar to performance related bonuses given to mortgage brokers in banks. Short sighted managers at banks want to see their buisness booming so they tell their brokers for every mortgage you sell you get a bonus.Well we know what happened to our banks.
We also know what has happened to the Governor of the Bank of England who oversaw this catastrophe. He is still in his job as will the guy who is running the RFL will be when it all goes wotsits up and I would guess neither of them know the LSV exists even though one has actually been there.
Professional RL in the North of England has 3 clubs making a profit.None in London none in France and certainly not one in Wales.'"
Sorry I didn`t mean to post this so had to wipe it off I am not deliberatly witholding who told me it`s just I cannot remember ,as I had a similar conversation with 2 people at the same time . |
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| Quote Leeeigh Leeeigh="Leeeigh Leeeigh"Another game in a mess - [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/23/premier-league-clubs-europe-debt£3.5 billion of debt of clubs in PL[/url, who also dwarf european clubs for income gained from TV deals and any other sport. Just imagine if TV pulled the plug on them. That's not including clubs going under/administration on seemingly weekly basis.
Its not easy trying to control that monster of greed and must have success at any price - the football authorities certainly have failed there. Ask Portsmouth fans - who checks new owners out?
This is just another bitter thread that appears on here regularly.'"
Not a bitter thread, a thread started with a bunch of facts. Oh and on your TV argument, how many tv stations wanted the football, how much coverage gets sold from one station to another. Now compare that with RL, Sky doesn't even have to televise the championship, it certainly doesn't pay for it, the co-op do. Is anyone else interested, no.
Has it not occured to you yet that people are slowly starting to realise the mess we are now in, due to sponsorship being almost 100% from one source, and therein lies the problem as pointed out earlier in the thread. What will the clubs do in SL when the next SKY deal is 10 mill down on the last one because they certainly won't be able to replace that elsewhere, and if they try to the Sky will just pull the plug. They regularly get less than 90,000 viewers for the SL games. Put it this way, if Sky was my business, I would have realised by now that, if I wanted to I could destroy SL. The championship clubs however, would not be massively affected as they are raising far more of thir own funds as a percentage of what they need |
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Badly out on viewing figures Dexy, even the Championship GF got 131k, the prestigious Union on the same channel the same time the day before got 110k.
The SL play offs were 250-300k, League massively outdraws union but we give it away. Sky need RL, more than RL needs Sky imho.
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| Quote maurice="maurice"Badly out on viewing figures Dexy, even the Championship GF got 131k, the prestigious Union on the same channel the same time the day before got 110k.
The SL play offs were 250-300k, League massively outdraws union but we give it away. Sky need RL, more than RL needs Sky imhoSLE is dead without sky tv.'" |
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| Quote maurice="maurice"Badly out on viewing figures Dexy, even the Championship GF got 131k, the prestigious Union on the same channel the same time the day before got 110k.
The SL play offs were 250-300k, League massively outdraws union but we give it away. Sky need RL, more than RL needs Sky imho.'"
Think my point was on sponsors yand would the rather see a reminder of their product seen by 100k or 2 million |
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Either way, the way things are, like it or not we do need sky because without it, the fallout doesn't bear thinking about
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| Would help us no end  |
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I agree
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Then join me on the 'get sky out of RL' facebook group
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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"Not a bitter thread, a thread started with a bunch of facts. Oh and on your TV argument, how many tv stations wanted the football, how much coverage gets sold from one station to another. Now compare that with RL, Sky doesn't even have to televise the championship, it certainly doesn't pay for it, the co-op do. Is anyone else interested, no.
Has it not occured to you yet that people are slowly starting to realise the mess we are now in, due to sponsorship being almost 100% from one source, and therein lies the problem as pointed out earlier in the thread. What will the clubs do in SL when the next SKY deal is 10 mill down on the last one because they certainly won't be able to replace that elsewhere, and if they try to the Sky will just pull the plug. They regularly get less than 90,000 viewers for the SL games. Put it this way, if Sky was my business, I would have realised by now that, if I wanted to I could destroy SL. The championship clubs however, would not be massively affected as they are raising far more of thir own funds as a percentage of what they need'"
think you should get your facts right regarding viewing figures before you spout off |
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