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| They aren't.
You can buy shares everyday if you like in whatever company. Should the company you bought shares in go bust then your shares are worthless but as a shareholder you are not responsible for the debts of the company that has gone bust.
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| Quote: Leigh24.7 "Could someone please clarify the situation for me.......The current shares have no value so what is the point of shareholders holding on to them and how could they expect someone to buy them? As they have put their money into the club in the past with no chance of a return they must love the club so in the interests of the clubs future why don't they just hand over the ownership? They will never see that money again and although we are all very grateful to them it was their choice / gamble. Again, if money is owed to the bank then they should be responsible just like I would be for a loan I took out.'"
My guess is that shareholders who have not given a personal guarantee to the bank would happily give up their shares to any new prospective investor. The problems arises when a call is made on the shareholders who have given a personal guarantee and clearly don't want to stump up the cash to clear the decks!! I would imagine this is the major stumbling block moving forward with new investors and a new regime.
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| Quote: salfordlad "They aren't.
You can buy shares everyday if you like in whatever company. Should the company you bought shares in go bust then your shares are worthless but as a shareholder you are not responsible for the debts of the company that has gone bust.'"
Correct
Ltd company Limited Liability.
Only those who off gaurentees are liable.
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| Quote: DETROITSOUL "I thought that Ivan the shareholders are responsible for any debts ?'"
I think a few fans were sold that one when shares for fans or trusts were mentioned
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| Quote: maurice "I think a few fans were sold that one when shares for fans or trusts were mentioned'"
Mo things will be OK ,Charlie knows .
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| Quote: Starbug "If it is then I suggest ' somebody ' should arrange a meeting between all the current shareholders, both current directors and past to clear up the position, all are reasonable people and all I have no doubt want whatever is best for the club and would not stand in the way or place obsticles in the best way forward
It really isnt that difficult, all it takes is a few phonecalls'"
Well after a week away it seems the club is no further down the line to solving both the short term cash flow issue or the long term income defficiency , instead we have 2 or 3 groups with different idea's but potentially all unable to compromise or agree to work together
So once again I'd suggest a meeting of the current shareholders should be a priority to clear up the club ownership issue, I will suggest the same to the remaining board members tommorrow
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| Quote: Starbug "Well after a week away it seems the club is no further down the line to solving both the short term cash flow issue or the long term income defficiency , instead we have 2 or 3 groups with different idea's but potentially all unable to compromise or agree to work together
So once again I'd suggest a meeting of the current shareholders should be a priority to clear up the club ownership issue, I will suggest the same to the remaining board members tommorrow'"
Won't comment on what's going on behind the scenes but I agree with you regards the ownership issue.
If you could get clarity on all the shareholders stance on the shares it would be a huge assistance to all parties in my opinion.
Are you free at any point tomorrow to take a phone call?? Promise not to keep you as long as last time
Cheers,
Andy.
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| Quote: SRW1996 "Won't comment on what's going on behind the scenes but I agree with you regards the ownership issue.
If you could get clarity on all the shareholders stance on the shares it would be a huge assistance to all parties in my opinion.
Are you free at any point tomorrow to take a phone call?? Promise not to keep you as long as last time
I'll be a bit busy tommorrow, thursday mid morning should be ok, and by then I might have an answer on a shareholders meeting
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| Quote: Starbug "I'll be a bit busy tommorrow, thursday mid morning should be ok, and by then I might have an answer on a shareholders meeting'"
Cheers Steve.
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| Too many holidays you Pike's have starbug 'never a wom'
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| we wish, that was the last for a long time
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| I know where your coming from none on the horizon for me either
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| You still need 75% of the shareholders to agree to put the company into admin, if it comes to that,
The creditors also have a major say if they do not get paid and could petition the company to enter into admin, although you would lose your money
Reading all what is being said on here, i would be very reticent in handing over any further cash until the skeletons are out of the cupboard or the shareholders agree a way forward either by entering into admin/cva or continuing to fund the black hole.
Anyone left on the board with any sense would be consulting with there banks or an IP, Play your cards right and both could be very beneficial and get the right result for the club and a lot of its creditors
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| My opinion is that if we enter admin then we are as good as dead. If the rfl decide to relegate us, which they could do, then we will be in champ1 for 2014. Its beginning to look like changes will take place that will mean at least 4 clubs dropping out of the championship to champ 1 and no promotion. We will then be on the wrong side of the line for SL 1&2.
Also haven't the current problems been touted as temporary cash flow problems up to now?
I hope that the groups looking to help/takeover are also aware of a) the rfl bylaws and b) the proposed restructuring of the leagues and the consequences that some with them
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| *come with them (bloody thickphone)
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