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Quote: reffy "If the reduction in interchanges comes in there will be no room for players who only play in short bursts.'"


I find it interesting as tactics will play a big part if it happens.I'm sure some will still play a big short burst player but obviously at the cost of more minutes on another position.

Could be a big advantage to a team,when you stick that player on at the right time.

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With that pack you will walk the championship and the middle 8's, guaranteed promotion!

Still, where did i hear that before?

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reffy but with putting riddy at 12 you then have a 11 12 and 13 that will play all 80 mins! That leaves us with 4 spots (props) too use in smaller more impactful bursts

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I think we missed Sam Barlow badly in the play-offs, his superb offloads to Ryan Brierley in support were some of the best highlights of the season for me. Martin Ridyard has not got the pace required now in the halves, and seemed to lose form at the end of the season. Like other fans I believe he should now move to loose forward, and use his ball distribution skills there.

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Quote: reffy "I would keep Beswick and get shut of Moi Moi & Hock, the former is a passenger and the latter is a liability.'"

Good call reffy.

I was initially very excited at the signing of FFMM but I have since become increasingly frustrated at his level of play.
Let me explain. Fui doesn't actually break the line very often, o.k he attracts 2, 3 & occasionally 4 into the tackle *by name & reputation alone* but how many tackles does he actually burst ? It's not as if he doesn't have the beef to break tackles either.
Fui also doesn't possess the sparkling offloading game that Barlow & Hock (in his pomp) have.

Hock. Can be very good, but equally very bad, especially when he turns up uninterested. Sometimes looks like he would be happier taking a dump & reading Razzle on the side lines than playing. Great player in his day *his day has gone*.

Time to unearth some raw, new young talented lads for the future of the Club I think. It's not like we haven't got two great, successful amateur Clubs in Miners & East + an abundance of other quite local amateur Clubs to steal from is it.

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Which young lads would you pick then? I agree fui as been a let down! But hock as been carrying the pack at times this year!!!

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Quote: oggy123 "Hock higham moi moi Hansen matuai Patterson subs beswick Weston Hopkins emmit that's some pack!!! Can see people like spencer/haggerty/Dixon/aspinwall/Pittman/Acton leaving. Really excited for next year already'"



Out of those 6, I would like Spencer & Dixon & probably Acton ** to stay.

Dixon has been a solid performer for my money, while Spencer is a big, powerful & mobile forward & has lot's to offer.

** Acton.

I see him as a possible raw talent, maybe he has 12 months to get his act together & prove himself to PR & some fans, or maybe the patience has run out ?

Leaving *maybe*

Haggerty has been hit & miss, the petulant knee was diabolical. Pitmann & Aspinwall don't really feature, Pitmann hasn't been able to break into the team for any extended period.

Tommy G has been solid & has always been one of the hardest grafters in the team, he has a contract extension I believe for the 2016 season, so he could find himself on loan in the Championship *though he is good at this level*.

Sarsfield might get more chances *if not loaned out*, let's not forget we need cover for all these new signings.

Beswick should stay, he is a specialist hooker & if anything should happen to Higham during the season, we then lack experience at 9.

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We desperately need a supersonic winger, not just fast but big & strong too. Trouble with this is, where do you find one who is SL quality as they are all in SL/NRL already, do we have a scout ?

Ryan is to be loaned back to us from Leeds, but Rangi is on his way here also, so do we play Rangi at 6 with Riddy as cover ?

Is it time to really push Ben Reynolds towards being our next 6 or 7, he has raw talent & I see good things for his future.

Are Riddy's days numbered ?
He has done great at the Leigh at Championship level but could he cut it at SL ?

These questions & more will be answered next season.

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Dixon isn't big enough for me! Does the basics well but isn't the class we now have available. Keep Tommy for me he's defence is 2nd to none! Spencer doesn't play anywhere near enough minutes and can go for me! Acton maybe on last chance saloon (I'd prefer him to Bailey) as for riddy I really believe we should be looking to switch him to 13 we looked lost when he wasn't on the field the last few games! Rangi and Ryan are of the cuff players which is fine but we need too be playing too a set game plan next year and let these 2 run riot off the back of it

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Quote: oggy123 "Which young lads would you pick then? I agree fui as been a let down! But hock as been carrying the pack at times this year!!!'"

I really don't know Oggy, I posed the question elsewhere, do we have a scout ?
Maybe I should also ask, do we have any in the system & what is our system.

To achieve the goal of SL & to achieve longevity at that level, surely we must invest in youth & a proper system & pathway in which to grow a constantly evolving pool of talent, much like Leeds & Wigan do.

Wigan after all only pick from the same sources that Leigh could & should, albeit they have the SL & financial/success cache to entice the best young players to commit to them.

I don't profess to have all the answers, just ideas & aspirations like most fans.

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lets not drop into the whole "super league standard" players like years gone by. We have just finished bottom of the qualifiers below two part time teams.

Yes if the signing are confirmed they are encouraging but all but Hansen have caused trouble at their previous club. Are we becoming some kind of rehab for former international players. (Hock, Chase, Paterson).

This years mistakes have been because of a lack of rotation within the squad throughout the season, we need to ensure the players are fresh for the qualifiers next year even if that means not running away with the division.

I expect Armstrong, Aspinwall, Maden, Goulden, Sarsfield, Beswick, Wilkes, Platt, Walker, Pitman and Barlow will leave permanently. And Reynolds out on loan.

Lets have a season under the radar, no big talk from fans or members of staff, no need for a challenge cup run as it proved a huge burden in the end.

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Problem is with young lads they get poached by saints wire Wigan Widnes and then we get them back when they are 20 and not good enough!

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Quote: oggy123 "Dixon isn't big enough for me! Does the basics well but isn't the class we now have available. Keep Tommy for me he's defence is 2nd to none!'"


Dixon's defence is excellent, in the last 3 outings the opta stats have Tommy missing 14 tackles whilst Dixon missed 3.

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Tommy is also a penalty machine and struggled immensely with the Pace of the qualifiers.

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Rowley should have been giving some of our up and coming reserves game time in the last few weeks of the championship and resting first team players for the play offs.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "I really don't know Oggy, I posed the question elsewhere, do we have a scout ?
Maybe I should also ask, do we have any in the system & what is our system.

To achieve the goal of SL & to achieve longevity at that level, surely we must invest in youth & a proper system & pathway in which to grow a constantly evolving pool of talent, much like Leeds & Wigan do.

Wigan after all only pick from the same sources that Leigh could & should, albeit they have the SL & financial/success cache to entice the best young players to commit to them.

I don't profess to have all the answers, just ideas & aspirations like most fans.'"


Wigan , St Helens, Warrington , Salford etc will always pic the cream of the talent because of their current standings in the league system , Leigh have at least 3 ex Saints academy products and I think 2 from Salford, now for me the problem lies with the reserve grade in the championship only 5 teams entered this year and has probably hindered every reserve team players chances of progressing, a few of last year's reserves have gone out on loan Hankinson, Ward ,Tracey ,and Peet . Bate Briscoe and Duffy have left completely as well as Rowe and Pendelbury, these players are too good to be playing in a poor none event league beating teams 86-4, achieves nothing , I fear that the players above plus possibly Foster, Lee, Swift , Harper will end up dropping out of the game unless they are given a chance , a lot of people on here have quoted " how tired " the team is , well I have named enough players that could of played in games this season to keep the 1st team regulars fresh and go into the 8's ready for battle and not carrying knocks

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