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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "
Leigh deserve better, they came so close but in the end were so far from reaching Super League in 2016. Did they need such a huge overhaul? No.'"
But if you think of the players in and out this close season, it's not the massive overhaul you would imagine.
We had to replace Wilkes, Aspinwall and Goulden, which brings Weston, Paterson and Hansen. All improvements imo. That leaves Maitua out of the ex-Salford forwards, and it's a matter of opinion on whether he's a better option than Haggerty or Sarsfield. Based on last season I would say yes.
Chase was always going to be the big gamble, but with biggest potential reward. Unfortunately our attack was awful for 5 1/2 games of the middle 8s last year.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "My view is Ryan never asked for an additional £15k and simply decided to activate a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave the club if Paul Rowley ever did. Paul left the club because of the 'culture' that was beginning to evolve at the club, following the signings of certain players. Without the backing of his boss over how to eradicate this, he felt his position was untenable and left. Had the club been in great hands and all as well as it was last season, Ryan wouldn't have left, however he wants no part of the 2016 Leigh and I don't blame him.
Beaumont not only took a huge financial risk when he signed Chase, Hansen, Paterson, Maitua, Tonga etc but also an off-field risk. A lot of Leigh's current 17 were the reasons behind Salford's terrible off-field antics last season. If it pays off, great you've got Super League RL but so far you've lost a coach and your best player from 2015. Wonder boy Rangi is in rehab and nobody knows if/when he will be back.
Leigh deserve better, they came so close but in the end were so far from reaching Super League in 2016. Did they need such a huge overhaul? No.'"
You've hinted previously at this, presumably meaning the Salford lads. If Rowley was so opposed to them and thought they were bringing such a terrible 'culture' to the club I doubt he would have appointed Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson as Vice Captains. Infact I seem to remember him singing the praises of the attitude and leadership qualities of those 2 players when the appointments were made which was not long before his departure.
I know you feel that they were an 'issue' at Salford but they seem to be settling in just fine here.
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| So given it seems everyone knows where Rangi is but the Leigh club are still giving it the old cover up, is it plausible that they may also be lying over what has gone on with Brierley?
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "So given it seems everyone knows where Rangi is but the Leigh club are still giving it the old cover up, is it plausible that they may also be lying over what has gone on with Brierley?'"
There have been a number of statements made by the club that have left me wondering what to believe, but am inclined to believe the club and Jukes' version of events on the Brierley saga.
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| Quote: Nozzy "You've hinted previously at this, presumably meaning the Salford lads. If Rowley was so opposed to them and thought they were bringing such a terrible 'culture' to the club I doubt he would have appointed Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson as Vice Captains. Infact I seem to remember him singing the praises of the attitude and leadership qualities of those 2 players when the appointments were made which was not long before his departure.
I know you feel that they were an 'issue' at Salford but they seem to be settling in just fine here.'"
Thank you. You beat me to it as that aspect immediately struck me.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "So given it seems everyone knows where Rangi is but the Leigh club are still giving it the old cover up, is it plausible that they may also be lying over what has gone on with Brierley?'"
Private and confidential ?
I sincerely doubt Neil Jukes was lying over Brierley. If you speak to any one, Neil Jukes is always referred to as a very honorable man.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "So given it seems everyone knows where Rangi is but the Leigh club are still giving it the old cover up, is it plausible that they may also be lying over what has gone on with Brierley?'"
Nope
Is it plausible Ryans statement was written by him?
Is it plausible that Ryans agent has not already got something sorted for Ryan?
Is it plausible to think that most of the tools have now vacated this board
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| Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "Private and confidential ?
I sincerely doubt Neil Jukes was lying over Brierley. If you speak to any one, Neil Jukes is always referred to as a very honorable man.'" Did Rangi really have flu then?
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| Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Did Rangi really have flu then?'"
He may have done. Bl00dy hell.
I have had flu and a bad hip at the same time. I am being deadly serious as well
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| Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Did Rangi really have flu then?'"
Just wait and see like everyone else, us included. We don't know anything more than we did when you asked yesterday or the day before or the day before that.
I usually quite enjoy your contributions Robin as it is usually at least interesting and you come on here often, not just when there is a problem like a lot of your Fev friends.
But bloody hell, you are getting boring at the minute. If something new is announced I am sure it will be discussed on this board in detail. Until then, give it a rest eh? Or at least find some new material
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| He's played with his bad hip but the complication of flu floored him. No one knows for certain it seems.
Either way the Chase and Liarley situations are completely separate.
Haven't smartphone spell checkers gone down hill
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| If Rowley did not want Chase then why was he meeting him in public prior to signing him, he was spotted on multiple occasions so he had to have had input on the agreement.
Tim Sheens did all he could to keep both Paterson & Hansen. Salford also offered Maitua a contract for this year, all 3 chose to get away from Salford the latter after having his wages missed whilst on loan.
Rowley & Ryan are obviously close & im sure over time more info will come out.
Although Leigh are not my favourite team and I am not always impressed with the way DB comes across in the media you cannot knock his financial support & ability to attract quality players to the club. If teams like Wakefield and Bradford had somebody like him behind them they would probably put up with the media stuff because of the players he can seemingly attract even now when Leigh are plastered in the press for the wrong reasons.
For what its worth & knowing the industry I do believe Leigh have been hard done to recently, I do believe Rowley & Ryan will come out of this in the future looking a lot worse than the Leigh club.
The old proverb of "those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" springs to mind.
I will leave it at that for now but more will transpire.
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| From an outsider Nozzy, this is a gift that keeps giving.
I accept the notion that jukesy is a straight sort.... BUT, my over reliance on the rangi angle is that I'm fairly certain the club is bulls hitting on Rangi.... which then opens up the possibility they have been less than straight elsewhere.
It won't be the first time my own club has put out duff info or no info at all. We've all watched the game long enough to know we have to wade thru the BS to get anywhere near the truth.
I wouldn't bet the JGR is far off the mark.... not that it matters.
As soon as brearley gets another gig it'll go away
Leigh will win the league.
They will prob stand a better chance of replacing a crap wakey side and all this sheeite will be a distant memory....
But Rangi.... don't forget fev have history with rangi.... and on him I'm quite prepare to bore the cak out of folk....
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| In the last interview Rowley gave, he said he just wanted to leave it all behind and move on.....will he?
...and to RFF. Any club putting out the type of info Leigh have re ryan which is then proven to be blatant lies would be kicked out of the RFL. Come on apply some logic and sense to this situation although it seems most opposition fans lose that once visiting our board. Even it seems you RFF
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| See my post on the ryan thread derek.
I do think brearley has been ill advised.... he's paying the price...
On him I post genuinely.
Rangi on t'other hand.... lolol
Keep smiling derek
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