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| On tonight's performance it's evident that something is not right at the club . Some players tonight just did not know wtf was going on at times . Sorry but the experience we have in the team and you would of thought we had never played or trained together before . I'm no coach and don't profess to be but why can't we put a player on his back in a tackle ? Wire put us on our back every tackle and slowed our play the ball down all night . Dawson was left in no man's land on four occasions and they scored three tries out the four. It's now time to question our coaching methods and our tactics as it seems we can't play simple rugby and it's same e every week. 3 drives then a half hearted attempt on the 4th to throw ball about then the usual bomb that most half decent fullbacks will deal with all day long. We are being out coached every week because we don't do anything different ( example ) ... Ben Reynolds kicks ball round winger and scores ( reason ) .. because it was different and was
something that the opposition was not expecting. Some of them lads that played tonight have been coached by some quality coaches and I'm not having that they suddenly forget the things they have been taught over the years . Something at Leigh is not right and I feel if it's not sorted in the coming weeks we are going to be in for a rough ride . Can't see us doing anything in the 8s either because when that happens our moral will be that low we will get struggle to raise our game. Fact! Let's not keep thinking there's not a problem at the moment .
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| Quote: Cokey "Did i really say that?'"
So are you actually saying anything ??
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| Quote: JackDiggle "Complete lack of momentum and confidence..tall order to turn this around...in the early games we had a well structured defence and some options in attack..cupboard seems bare.
The selection of players seems to have a fantasy football feeling about it - biggest worry for me.'"
I tend to agree with you,the chopping and changing is killing us.Think Wire had one player out of posistion tonight (Hiku) granted probably the first time all season,but it showed the difference.
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| Quote: ColD "So are you actually saying anything ??'"
You've answered my question with a question rather than an answer. So what are you saying?
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| Quote: Cokey "Monty old bean,we were in the M8s before tonight's game. Tonight's result is academic. Do you really have to come on here constantly putting the club,players and management down? Do you have a degree in pessimism?'"
Cokey you call me a doomster but name me something positive from tonight's game? I was getting at thatnwe stand a better chance going into the middle 8s with a bit of form instead of LLLLLLLLLLL cause that will put extra pressure on us that's not needed. In rugby you make your own luck you can't sit about moping about you have to get out there and have ago like last week at Catalan. This week back to the body language that these championship sides will pick up on and exploit
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| A dreadful shambolic performance by the players and coaching team.
The fact we leak in access of 34 points a game of late would have made you think we'd work on that damn hard in training but no, the usual weak tackling but tonight added with a total lack of effort by far too many.
Our coaching team are unable or incapable of picking a steady team and like to tinker week by week which given injuries can be understood but during the match we don't appear to have a Plan B thus tonight Wire walked down Dawson's side as it was guaranteed they'd get something yet we left that side exposed for 80mins thus ensuring his confidence was shot to bits.
Substitutions are a mystery, I can live with giving players set time but when things are going horribly wrong then action is needed, our coaches don't react quick enough to what happens in a game .
Tonight was embarrassing and I'm paying in excess of 70 quid for the privelage.
I hear people says it's all about the 8's, it' should be about the next game as since the foots gone off the pedal ready for the 8's we have gone backwards and in doing so Revert to 5 drives and a kick RL
Forget the 8's as on current form they'll just be more defeats to add to this years list, how about some hard work put in for next week as I'm afraid on this form we are going back to the Championship and fully deserve to.
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| We look like relegation fodder with the current coaching setup.
Could be like the 2015 showing in the 8s all over again.
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| Be careful people you will get accused of being a pessimist
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| Quote: Montyburns "Cokey you call me a doomster but name me something positive from tonight's game? I was getting at thatnwe stand a better chance going into the middle 8s with a bit of form instead of LLLLLLLLLLL cause that will put extra pressure on us that's not needed. In rugby you make your own luck you can't sit about moping about you have to get out there and have ago like last week at Catalan. This week back to the body language that these championship sides will pick up on and exploit'"
I would say the Catalans game has taken it's toll on more than a few players.
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| Widnes are far worse than Leigh. At least you scored tonight. I'm still gunning for them for auto relegation.
That stated, unless you get any sort of form going into the m8s, it'll be squeeky bum time. Resting players is NOT the approach. They should be proving they're worth their selection for the m8s. It's been a long old season, but the business end cometh.
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| Who did we rest?
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| Quote: Cokey "You've answered my question with a question rather than an answer. So what are you saying?'"
I'm saying do you think that we are planning for the middles 8s with such a pi$$ poor performance that must affect player, coach and fans moral??
Or do you feel we are genuinely struggling performance wise ??
Would appreciate your clarification
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| I dont normally slate the team club or coach but enough is enough. We look clueless every game. Its getting harder to watch. I agree that tonights result didnt matter but now is the time were we need to start getting abit of momentum. If we dont improve or shake things uo then we will be a championship team next year.
Jukes out for me is the only way to go. It seems he has taken the team no where. We have gone from a side playing freeflowing and attractive rugby to this. I agree that the style of rugby we played last year and previous wasnt the smartest game managent wise amd perhaps wouldnt have got us promoted. I feel it was our time last year and a mix between SL teams having a woeful M8s and us playing on sheer emotion got us up. This year we will be on the other end of that emotion and we will have all to lose rather than gain. It will be hard with the mentality we have got of falling apart if another team gets infront. If we get infront we drop off get beat. We need to want it more for us fans that pay money and travel all over the place to watch the boys. Its getting harder to watch.
We blame referees, other clubs, unlucky calls, injuries and we need to look at ourselves and not the uncontrolables. We need rid of jukes and get abit of change around the club. I cant even think of who we could get in as i dont think anyone is available.
Like i say i usually dont like calling the team and coaching staff as nobody goes out there to loose. But tonight was embarassing! First time ive thought about the wigan walk. I couldnt bring myself to do it but i thought about that aas bad enough
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| Quote: North Stand Leyther "I dont normally slate the team club or coach but enough is enough. We look clueless every game. Its getting harder to watch. I agree that tonights result didnt matter but now is the time were we need to start getting abit of momentum. If we dont improve or shake things uo then we will be a championship team next year.
Jukes out for me is the only way to go. It seems he has taken the team no where. We have gone from a side playing freeflowing and attractive rugby to this. I agree that the style of rugby we played last year and previous wasnt the smartest game managent wise amd perhaps wouldnt have got us promoted. I feel it was our time last year and a mix between SL teams having a woeful M8s and us playing on sheer emotion got us up. This year we will be on the other end of that emotion and we will have all to lose rather than gain. It will be hard with the mentality we have got of falling apart if another team gets infront. If we get infront we drop off get beat. We need to want it more for us fans that pay money and travel all over the place to watch the boys. Its getting harder to watch.
We blame referees, other clubs, unlucky calls, injuries and we need to look at ourselves and not the uncontrolables. We need rid of jukes and get abit of change around the club. I cant even think of who we could get in as i dont think anyone is available.
Like i say i usually dont like calling the team and coaching staff as nobody goes out there to loose. But tonight was embarassing! First time ive thought about the wigan walk. I couldnt bring myself to do it but i thought about that aas bad enough'"
Are you on prescription medication? Or something else!
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| We need an experienced head coach for next season, not 3 inexperienced ones. We will be probably in the championship again next season. Big mistake in 'splashing the cash' on players, and leaving Jukes in charge.
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