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| Quote reffy="reffy"I am a Leigh fan and have been for donkey's ages, I have also been a referee. I can see faults in Leigh performances and faults in referees' performances. The average Leigh fan only sees faults in referees' performances and uses them as an excuse.
There are a few who do see the odd fault by their team but if they voice their opinion they are shouted down and ridiculed by the majority wearing cherry & white glasses.
This phenomenon is not unique to Leigh fans.

When does this happen ? Defeats only ? Did this happen at Leeds & Doncaster last season ? Did this happen at Warrington away in the challenge cup.....NO ! When your team is on 'the back foot' so to speak, and it appears that the Ref is being unfair, is this an adverse reaction ? NO. Like 'high tackles' on Liam kay, where the Ref ignores it. So you are HAPPY with every decision made by an official, because you have reffed a few amatuer/kids games. Get A Grip !!!! Ref's aren't biased, they have 'off days' like anyone else in their job, shame is the RFL do not make them accountable.
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| "So you are HAPPY with every decision made by an official,"
If you read my post properly you will note that I didn't say anything like that. I accept that they do make mistakes, some fans won't accept that sometimes it is player error that lost the game not referee error.
I hope Child doesn't affect the result, it would be difficult given the opposition, but I bet he makes less errors than the players.
How would you make a ref accountable, demote him so you get a less experienced official. The replacement would make mistakes as well, where would it stop? Coaches doing half a match each. 
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| Quote reffy="reffy""So you are HAPPY with every decision made by an official,"
If you read my post properly you will note that I didn't say anything like that. I accept that they do make mistakes, some fans won't accept that sometimes it is player error that lost the game not referee error.
I hope Child doesn't affect the result, it would be difficult given the opposition, but I bet he makes less errors than the players.
How would you make a ref accountable, demote him so you get a less experienced official. The replacement would make mistakes as well, where would it stop? =#FF0000Coaches doing half a match each.
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There's a thought!
But then look how biased Aston, Lowes, Chester, Betts, Sheens, Smith, and Marshall would be. No, there's only one who would be totally unbiased, in these Qualifiers! 
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| Quote Alan="Alan"There's a thought!
But then look how biased Aston, Lowes, Chester, Betts, Sheens, Smith, and Marshall would be. No, there's only one who would be totally unbiased, in these Qualifiers!
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| Quote reffy="reffy"Aye, the reason we have lost the first three games is the referees' abysmal performances, nowt to do with poor tactics, poor discipline, poor decision making, players' poor form etc. If the referees gave us a fair crack we would have six points instead of zilch.'"
I'm not suggesting we lost our first three games because of the Referees! I'm making an observation on James Childs as a Referee! Every game he takes involving Leigh he is constantly talking to and warning Leigh players, far more than he does the opposition!
We have acquired a reputation for ill discipline and I think some Referees are riding on the back of that? yes we commit foul play however, has any of our foul play led to an opponent being seriously injured or, hospitalised? rarely i'll bet! Some of our players are a target for opposition teams, none more so than Sam Barlow! Sam came to Leigh with a reputation for foul play yet, it is he who gets targeted and has sometimes finished up in Hospital! Gregg McNally too seems to be targeted and hehas had his fair share of Hospital Linen!
In the Wakey game, Childs could quite easily given us justifiable penalties however, as usual, he chose not to! When Liam Kay chased Ridyards kick down to score a glorious try Chris Riley deliberately tried to impede Liam from collecting the ball! Childs could have awarded Leigh a further two points for the foul but, he didn't! A couple of years ago he awarded Catalan an eight point try against us for their player being fouled during scoring! Again, Wakey game, he could have awarded us a penalty as Gregg McNally was fouled whilst chasing a free play but, he didn't ! Its these inconsistencies which draws my criticism of Childs! had a Leigh Player stuck his arm and felled a Wakey winger, as Lee Smith did to Liam Kay, I've no doubt whatsoever our player would have seen a red card!
Kurt Haggerty was plain stupid kneeing the irritating Lee Smith, Childs could and perhaps should have given him a red card, the first offence was Smith gripping Kurts leg and preventing him from getting up, trying to milk a penalty, an action that was spotted by the officials who were prepared to play on! just another of Childs inconsistencies!
Lets see how he goes on Sunday? I for one would prefer someone else!
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| Quote kirkhall="kirkhall" When Liam Kay chased Ridyards kick down to score a glorious try Chris Riley deliberately tried to impede Liam from collecting the ball! Childs could have awarded Leigh a further two points for the foul but, he didn't! A couple of years ago he awarded Catalan an eight point try against us for their player being fouled during scoring! '"
Two different scenarios both dealt with correctly. Having said that Child does miss things but they all do.
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Again, Wakey game, he could have awarded us a penalty as Gregg McNally was fouled whilst chasing a free play but, he didn't ! Its these inconsistencies which draws my criticism of Childs! had a Leigh Player stuck his arm and felled a Wakey winger, as Lee Smith did to Liam Kay, I've no doubt whatsoever our player would have seen a red card!
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That wouldn't be inconsistency, that would be cheating............refs don't cheat.
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I for one would prefer someone else!'"
So would I but there aren't many to pick from.
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| Quote kirkhall="kirkhall"I'm not suggesting we lost our first three games because of the Referees! I'm making an observation on James Childs as a Referee! Every game he takes involving Leigh he is constantly talking to and warning Leigh players, far more than he does the opposition!
We have acquired a reputation for ill discipline and I think some Referees are riding on the back of that? yes we commit foul play however, has any of our foul play led to an opponent being seriously injured or, hospitalised? rarely i'll bet! Some of our players are a target for opposition teams, none more so than Sam Barlow! Sam came to Leigh with a reputation for foul play yet, it is he who gets targeted and has sometimes finished up in Hospital! Gregg McNally too seems to be targeted and hehas had his fair share of Hospital Linen!
In the Wakey game, Childs could quite easily given us justifiable penalties however, as usual, he chose not to! When Liam Kay chased Ridyards kick down to score a glorious try Chris Riley deliberately tried to impede Liam from collecting the ball! Childs could have awarded Leigh a further two points for the foul but, he didn't! A couple of years ago he awarded Catalan an eight point try against us for their player being fouled during scoring! Again, Wakey game, he could have awarded us a penalty as Gregg McNally was fouled whilst chasing a free play but, he didn't ! Its these inconsistencies which draws my criticism of Childs! had a Leigh Player stuck his arm and felled a Wakey winger, as Lee Smith did to Liam Kay, I've no doubt whatsoever our player would have seen a red card!
Kurt Haggerty was plain stupid kneeing the irritating Lee Smith, Childs could and perhaps should have given him a red card, the first offence was Smith gripping Kurts leg and preventing him from getting up, trying to milk a penalty, an action that was spotted by the officials who were prepared to play on! just another of Childs inconsistencies!
Lets see how he goes on Sunday? I for one would prefer someone else!'"
Bluddy ell, talk about cherry and white spex
(1) So what if Childs is constantly talking to and warning our players more so than the opposition? Do you think sometimes we deserve it more than the opposition?
(2) Watch the game again - Riley was nowhere near Liam Kay when he scored so no chance of an 8 point try.
(3) Don't recall the Greg McNally incident but do you not think Wakey fans could point out just as many such decisions which did not go their way?
(4) "if a Leigh player stuck his arm out and felled a Wakey winger our player would have seen a red card" - that's just paranoia. I seem to recall their player Sio (??) getting a yellow card when Kurt Haggerty got no more than a penalty.
(5) Watch the game again - the touchie was wrong, Smith did not grip Haggerty's leg. He did nothing except be an irritating git, which does not entitle you to knee him in the head (Greg McNally anybody?)
I'm with reffy here - far too much referee blaming for me.
As for this business about the opposition being offside, have Leythers ever looked at our defensive line when the opposition has the ball?
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| Quote (2) Watch the game again - Riley was nowhere near Liam Kay when he scored so no chance of an 8 point try.'"
The question should be. Would Childs have pinged Riley for obstruction If Kay hadn't scored?
Personally for me Childs is fine when he has a video ref available. Take that away from him and he lose's the plot more often than not.
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| Getting back to the original thread ,if we don't win with ease on Sunday ,it's Goodnight Irene to SL, as our points difference is poor, myself I think we will win, it's a must.
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| All will change on Sunday Charlie..
Atomic knows... 
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| 'Poor' because we have played 3 SL sides? Yes the bulls had a big difference against Salford but we had a better result against Wakey. The murk will have cleared a bit more by 4.45 on Sunday.
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| I hope it isn't any later, my last bus is 5.00pm. 
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