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Quote: Alan "Please can we all take time out, here. I understand where 'Starbug' is coming from, as he has put considerable time and effort into what was the Community Trust. However, I believe that the way the Club & Community Department links were set up, just wasn't working. To say we will not have a 'Community Department', in the future, is way wide of the mark. So, let's just await developments. One thing's for sure - the current administration is 100% aware that it is essential for the club to have strong links with the community and schools, in order to move forward, and they will be doing something about that.

Oh, and by the way, the current administration does have access to 'volunteers' who are highly professionally qualified. (and I'm not talking about me here!)'"


Are these the club apprentices? i was talking to one of them the other day and they deliver posters into schools whilst doing activities! They mention our club alot too.

Maybe we can ask one of them to dress up as parky ?

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Quote: ste_ody "]

Are these the club apprentices? i was talking to one of them the other day and they deliver posters into schools whilst doing activities! They mention our club alot too.

Maybe we can ask one of them to dress up as parky ?'"


No ste. I'm talking about members of the PSG and Board, who are devoting a lot of their time to putting things in order and moving forward. Their professional qualifications and experience are very impressive and would cost (any club) a small fortune to pay for! And, incidentally, they are all members of the local 'Community'.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Alan "Please can we all take time out, here. I understand where 'Starbug' is coming from, as he has put considerable time and effort into what was the Community Trust. However, I believe that the way the Club & Community Department links were set up, just wasn't working. To say we will not have a 'Community Department', in the future, is way wide of the mark. So, let's just await developments. One thing's for sure - the current administration is 100% aware that it is essential for the club to have strong links with the community and schools, in order to move forward, and they will be doing something about that.

Oh, and by the way, the current administration does have access to 'volunteers' who are highly professionally qualified. (and I'm not talking about me here!)[/quote]

Quite correct , not suggesting the PSG is anything other than a group of highly qualified people in their own fields , however are any of them prepared and qualified to take control of and run a F/T community dept

You yourself do a highly proffessional job of producing and editing the club programme , it is what you ' want ' to do , you enjoy it , similarily the Kids club and the Radio coverage are being done by people to a high standard because they are experienced in those fields , but more importantly , they are ' interested ' in doing it

But asking for volunteers to do something they dont understand , probably dont have the time to commit to , and something they aren't actually interested in is something totally different

Also just to put things in ' perspective ' , the RFL no less see having a Community Trust as opposed to a Community Dept as ' Best Practice ' , the majority if not all SL clubs have Trusts running their community work as opposed to a dept , I have no doubt if the club consulted with their latest Director [ A trustee of the W1g4n Warriors community Trust ] they would get proffessional advice on which is the best for the club and the best direction the club should take

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: mishmash "OK I think the most important questions regarding the Supporters Trust has to be - what did you actually do for the club and how many new fans did you bring through the gate? How many schools did you get into and how well did you do in generating interest among the junior fans?

This is surely the test of how successful the ST was, and how 'professional' you were?'"


Mish , for clarity can you change your ' S,s ' to ' C,s ' icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Toadstool "I have had a look at the Leigh Communtiy Trust website to see what they are doing in the community.
I notice one of the Trustees is Steve Pike who I think is Starbug (apologies if I am wrong).
If this is the case perhaps we should be aware of this "interest" and await the other side of the story from the club before getting involved in speculation on here.
This is not a crticism of Starbug but when an interested party is passionate about something the other side may be equally as passionate.'"


Thats me , I altered my ' sig ' last night to avoid confusion , my ' interest ' in the Community Trust [ former dept ] is for it to do what it was set up to do , to increase awarenes in the community of Leigh Centurions , to help increase the fan base of Leigh Centurions and to where possible employ Leigh Centurions players

The current administration were invited to appoint club employee's/directors onto the Trust , they declined citing a ' conflict of interest ' , they now claim they dont have any ' control ' of the Trust , maybe if they could make up their mind what they do actually ' want ' then all this could have been avoided

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I have noticed a ' drift ' on this thread , lets get back to the O/P , so will you all be happy having Leigh Centurions owned/run by a Supporters Trust ? , which as I pointed out , would almost certainly remove any chance of ever getting into SL

If people want to discuss the Community Trust , start up your own thread icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Mish , for clarity can you change your ' S,s ' to ' C,s '
I don't get it. eusa_eh.gif

And you didn't answer my questions. eusa_naughty.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: mishmash "I don't get it.
You posted ST , when you meant CT

As for what they have done , do you want me to get overall numbers of kids worked with ?, programmes delivered ?, players employed ? , awards recieved ?

Dont forget , what the apprentices will be doing is fairly similar to what the Community Dept/Trust has done for years , so unless the club changes what it has/hasn't done afterwards , then the results wont improve

Unfortunatley there is no way of actually counting how many new supporters have been brought to the club as a result of community work , unless of course you start of with the ' Census ' of the club I first suggested to the BOD several years ago , and to the PSG last november

Only by first doing that can you get a true indication of any initiatives success or failure

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Quote: Starbug "You posted ST , when you meant CT

As for what they have done , do you want me to get overall numbers of kids worked with ?, programmes delivered ?, players employed ? , awards recieved ?

Dont forget , what the apprentices will be doing is fairly similar to what the Community Dept/Trust has done for years , so unless the club changes what it has/hasn't done afterwards , then the results wont improve

Unfortunatley there is no way of actually counting how many new supporters have been brought to the club as a result of community work , unless of course you start of with the ' Census ' of the club I first suggested to the BOD several years ago , and to the PSG last november

Only by first doing that can you get a true indication of any initiatives success or failure'"


By this you mean what exactly?

Ticket offers, generally converting people into Leythers? How would you personally persuade people to support? (This is not a dig btw, maybe its something we can discuss with the club at the next meeting/fans forum)

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Ah so I did. icon_surprised.gifops:

Sorry to keep going on about this but one of the things I don't understand it you say you thought of building a database with DOB etc years ago, but why, as a director of the Community Trust, (something which you say is your passion), didn't you or one of the professional people involved in it, ever implement it through the CT?

Surely that should have been one of the first things they should have done?

Instead, it's has been left to a bunch of 'amateurs' to build the database up from scratch, something which they've done very well in the last couple of months I might add.

Just for the record, I'm not involved in it.

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Quote: ste_ody "By this you mean what exactly?

Ticket offers, generally converting people into Leythers? How would you personally persuade people to support? (This is not a dig btw, maybe its something we can discuss with the club at the next meeting/fans forum)'"


Too much to go into right now , I'v work to do , but we all agree Friday night was fantastic , that was due to 3 things

1 the visit of a world class team

2 a large number of away fans

3 a large number of home fans

Well we cant do anything about the world class opposition , but the other two things can be achieved with a little foresight and some hard work

Confucious he says , use net to catch fish , better than a hook and line

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Quote: mishmash "Ah so I did.
It is the clubs job to know its customers , not the community depts/trusts

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Personally I think we must keep the super league dream alive.

Friday night showed us how good this could be we cannot abandon the holy grail and I'm afraid thats what super- league is.
Who knows about future sugar daddies don't think we can rule out anything at this stage.

If I felt we ever reached the point where it was a ST or fold then I would support it.

I think starbugs views are tainted by his personal disappointments with the current regime

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Lets get back on track, there is a thread about Community Trust, although community ownership is what a Supporters Trust should be all about - we have tremendous passion, we need to unite it and engage it behind a common goal with a clear statement of intent.

Many hands make large revenue streams.

On a related point, are LISA now a shareholder?

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