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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"That's fine Jenky , if we want to reduce the Championship salary cap to a third of what it currently is'"
Then are the clubs being totally unrealistic ?
Last nights gate was a big one for Championship RL and yet would fall way short of some of the projections posted to break even.
I don't think any Championship clubs should be looking at gates that in the short term are incredibly unrealistic to achieve if they need double what they get just to survive.
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| dont know where you coming from maurice but trev couldnt even be bothered to go and talk to his staff when he was appointed so dont talk about trev communicating cos he does not know how his words were i didnt know i come here to talk to staff
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| Quote JENKY="JENKY"
2,500 , 3,000 or 4,000 are all figures that I'm sorry to say are totally unrealistic figures in the Championship.
Widnes struggle to average that and they have a relative recent history of major success in RL and have played in SL for more than 1 season (thus have a fan base built from that to fall back on).
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Why are they unrealistic ?
If all you are doing to try to increase them is hope they will come , then quite simply they won't
If you are trying to get somebody to buy a new brand of wine in a supermarket , or maybe a new flavour of pizza , what do you do ?
You give them a free sample
How many people , mostly kids have never set foot inside the LSV to watch Leigh ?
Why do people go to watch live sport ? , or a concert that they can watch on video or TV for a fraction of the cost ? , why have they had to have a lottery for the tickets for the Olympics ? , when you will get a much better view on the TV for free ?
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| Quote maurice="maurice"You amuse me and give me a reason to live, I thank you deeply
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Please tell more,he states we are 1500 down,he states we get £8 a person yep,so times 1500 by his £8 not mine figure each home game and what does it come to ???????? oh your right I'm £3500 out on his figures perhaps your now annual fans consortium could make up the £3500 on his figures
Just using his figures not mine,so come on maurice,starbugs figures come to £12,500 a home match whats yours?
Us mere mortal fans would like to know how you work your figures
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| Our problem is the money we have to pay to the LSV for each match we play there.
We have a chance to grow our fanbase with this team and coach.
Be part of that. The Consortium can negotiate with the LSV and our players can stop worrying about if they will receive their next pay cheque.
Anyone who can afford make your pledge' join LISA or just make sure you attend our home games.
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| I've noticed one or two TB MBE grudge holders appearing now 
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Why are they unrealistic ?
If all you are doing to try to increase them is hope they will come , then quite simply they won't
If you are trying to get somebody to buy a new brand of wine in a supermarket , or maybe a new flavour of pizza , what do you do ?
You give them a free sample
How many people , mostly kids have never set foot inside the LSV to watch Leigh ?
Why do people go to watch live sport ? , or a concert that they can watch on video or TV for a fraction of the cost ? , why have they had to have a lottery for the tickets for the Olympics ? , when you will get a much better view on the TV for free ?'"
They are unrealistic IMO as no club in this division has ever achieved a 4,000 average without Promotion and relegation.
I'd say that Widnes apart many clubs in our division really struggle to average 1,900 paying fans.
Yes plan for a projection of gates of 2,3 or 4,000 but don't finance for gates that are at the current moment in time and looking at previous averages very hard to achieve.
I agree with the rest of your post, they are all achievable aims, however mixing up aims and aspirations with 'must hit' targets is where you can end up in a mess unless you have a benefactor /backer or investors willing to make up the shortfall.
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| Quote JENKY="JENKY"They are unrealistic IMO as no club in this division has ever achieved a 4,000 average without Promotion and relegation.
I'd say that Widnes apart many clubs in our division really struggle to average 1,900 paying fans.
Yes plan for a projection of gates of 2,3 or 4,000 but don't finance for gates that are at the current moment in time and looking at previous averages very hard to achieve.
I agree with the rest of your post, they are all achievable aims, however mixing up aims and aspirations with 'must hit' targets is where you can end up in a mess unless you have a benefactor /backer or investors willing to make up the shortfall.'"
Just because something hasn't been done before or is hard to achieve , doesn't mean it can't be done , the actual real target is 12,000
It's how you go about achieving it , if all you do is try the same things that have failed in the past , you will fail , so you start with a blank piece of paper with what you want to achieve on it , then figure out a way to do it
What comes to mind is something in one TV show and also a film
I cannot remember which TV show it was but it was the last episode and the characters were discussing their future , " I have heard they are going to build a new type of road called a motorway , well I'm going to open a place where people can stop and go to the toilet and buy food on them " , " if they are on a big road like that , it'll never work ", the film was the Memphis Belle , one of the characters suggested he wanted to open a chain of restaurants all over America where the food would always be the same , " Why would anybody want the same food wherever they go ? "
The bottom line is we have a stadium that will fit 12,000 in it , so as long as there is an empty seat then there is still work to do
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Just because something hasn't been done before or is hard to achieve , doesn't mean it can't be done , the actual real target is 12,000
It's how you go about achieving it , if all you do is try the same things that have failed in the past , you will fail , so you start with a blank piece of paper with what you want to achieve on it , then figure out a way to do it
What comes to mind is something in one TV show and also a film
I cannot remember which TV show it was but it was the last episode and the characters were discussing their future , " I have heard they are going to build a new type of road called a motorway , well I'm going to open a place where people can stop and go to the toilet and buy food on them " , " if they are on a big road like that , it'll never work ", the film was the Memphis Belle , one of the characters suggested he wanted to open a chain of restaurants all over America where the food would always be the same , " Why would anybody want the same food wherever they go ? "
The bottom line is we have a stadium that will fit 12,000 in it , so as long as there is an empty seat then there is still work to do'"
Well said.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Just because something hasn't been done before or is hard to achieve , doesn't mean it can't be done , the actual real target is 12,000
It's how you go about achieving it , if all you do is try the same things that have failed in the past , you will fail , so you start with a blank piece of paper with what you want to achieve on it , then figure out a way to do it
What comes to mind is something in one TV show and also a film
I cannot remember which TV show it was but it was the last episode and the characters were discussing their future , " I have heard they are going to build a new type of road called a motorway , well I'm going to open a place where people can stop and go to the toilet and buy food on them " , " if they are on a big road like that , it'll never work ", the film was the Memphis Belle , one of the characters suggested he wanted to open a chain of restaurants all over America where the food would always be the same , " Why would anybody want the same food wherever they go ? "
The bottom line is we have a stadium that will fit 12,000 in it , so as long as there is an empty seat then there is still work to do'"
Best post yet. Thats the spirit Steve.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Just because something hasn't been done before or is hard to achieve , doesn't mean it can't be done , the actual real target is 12,000
It's how you go about achieving it , if all you do is try the same things that have failed in the past , you will fail , so you start with a blank piece of paper with what you want to achieve on it , then figure out a way to do it
What comes to mind is something in one TV show and also a film
I cannot remember which TV show it was but it was the last episode and the characters were discussing their future , " I have heard they are going to build a new type of road called a motorway , well I'm going to open a place where people can stop and go to the toilet and buy food on them " , " if they are on a big road like that , it'll never work ", the film was the Memphis Belle , one of the characters suggested he wanted to open a chain of restaurants all over America where the food would always be the same , " Why would anybody want the same food wherever they go ? "
The bottom line is we have a stadium that will fit 12,000 in it , so as long as there is an empty seat then there is still work to do'"
Agree totally.
However if financing it from scratch again we need to take a realistic look at what can be achieved in the short , mid and long term.
We need short term goals with mid term aims and a long term plan.
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| Quote JENKY="JENKY"Agree totally.
However if financing it from scratch again we need to take a realistic look at what can be achieved in the short , mid and long term.
We need short term goals with mid term aims and a long term plan.'"
The one certain way to fail at something is not to try
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