What ,that you had a million turn over and 2500 average gates ,i think we do

So who at the RFL told you that this was the only criteria that we were judged on? Go on please share your obvious insider knowledge with us.

It quite obviously wasn't , because even the RFL aren't that stupid

That's the thing , we are RL fans , RL is what happens on the pitch , I'm guessing that's the reason you originally went to Naughton Park / Halton Stadium / Stobart Stadium ?

Or were you more bothered about turnover and profit margins ?

what telling porkies

No-one was pointing any hate towards Widnes.

I suppose people are just fed up to the back teeth of the RFL having seemingly having different rules for it's clubs.

I have posted elsewhere that rugby league is making a mockery of itself and there will come a time soon when instead of 34 men going at each other for eighty minutes we might as well send respective chairmen or boardmembers out with a pack of toptrumps to decide results.

That is how it would appear from an outsider looking in.

You lot really are getting paranoid , you have been congratulated on the performance of your juniors many times , honestly how many of those games did you see ?

You have had I'd say over 90 percent of Championship clubs fans stating that you are the club that should get the SL place in 2012 , but you are not ' perfect ' , don't pretend you are , as a club you are learning the RFL ' spin ' game , and why I don't blame you for that , don't expect not to be criticised for it , as you the fans of Widnes have criticised fans of other clubs doing the same

Just for the record , look at the post at the top of this page , the one above your post , the one where I am defending the Widnes club , the one that if you trace it back gets to ' Glow ' , praising the Widnes club

All this ' everybody hates us ' bull is getting tiresome , hardly anybody on here posts negatively about Widnes , except on one subject ( the financial figures , and if you don't understand why , then there is no point trying to explain ) , you have been praised on several fronts and wished well on your SL application , you are THE strongest club outside SL , and are THE only viable current SL club in the Championship

Usual thread drift, one fan has a pop at club, one defends it, but then another say's why you saying that on here and so on and so on! lol.

We know their are a few in here who do seem obsessed with Widnes BUT their are plenty that aren't but then obviously get annoyed when Widnes fans reply back to the originals!

You're taking my point out of context to throw back a 'paranoia' jibe back at me. How clever.



I've read equally as much bile written about us on RLFans, TotalRL and trustinwidnes. I'm not making it up you know. You try putting yourself in our position because until you do, you have no right to tell us how we should be reacting.



Utter garbage.

It's little wonder that I don't post in these crappy little forums anymore and it won't be long before I stop reading them altogether.

Well nobody on the first page actually congratulated us did they, referring to us as mutants, smellies, saying the RFL are a joke for awarding us this award, saying it's a slap in the face for the likes of Fev etc... What would you term those comments then?



Or perhaps you should be sick the back teeth of your own clubs shortcomings? Please point me to the rules that are specifically designed for each club...



Apologies, I wasn't aware that we'd ditched the Championship, the NR Cup and and the Play offs. This is an award for off field activities. As far as I'm aware teams are still rewarded if they win the NR Cup, come top of the league or win the grand final. Please correct me if this information is out of date.



And we're the ones who are called paranoid by some of your fellow fans.

Was I suggesting that you or all of your fans on here were slating us? No. I said 'some'.



Neither did I say everybody hates us. However there is plenty of hate spread about us from outside this forum. Even certain SL fans are trying to undermine our youth victories claiming because they can't stomach the fact that lowly Widnes has an incredibly strong youth structure.



I'm not interested in your spin on our financial figures. I've read enough about it to be incredibly bored of it.



Yet we're still hated by certain sections of fans right across RLtrolls and TotalRL.

Well done at your quoting skills.

You've missed the point entirely.

Regarding the award, well club of the year should usually go to the stand-out club, onfield this was Fev, although you could argue teams like Batley always punch above their weight. Of course licencing has virtually ruled onfield activity as second fiddle, as long as you win something in the three year period or get to a Grand Final you can then focus on other things. This is what Widnes have done but it still undermines all the principles that we have all been brought up with in competitive sports.

I know about my own clubs short comings thank you very much and I also know about the hard work that continues to take place.

The Widnes club has a lot of things going for it. You know it, your fans know it, RFL knows it, we know it. I'll let Vikings fans do their own congratulating and if Widnes fans coming on here expect backslaps and champagne well you are in the wrong place, we don't even do that for our own team!

There have been posts praising Widnes but the RFL have created further apathy and disdain in our sport with their different handling of clubs, different quota rules, dufferent rules on facilities. If you need that explaining or can't see what I'm on about then I may as well give up.

I've nothing against Widnes, I've probably seen more games this season than some home fans and do a regular hospital radio show about Warrington and Widnes. I know people involved with the club and even term them as friends.

I respect that the club is just sticking to the rules set down by the governing body.

In my eyes the pressure is now on Widnes to actually win the competition next year. They can't expect to be welcomed into Super League with open arms from a fifth place finish.

Hate is a strong word. There is frustration and anger at the current set of rules that have rendered winning competitions as secondary over three years to having a sexy looking balance sheet.

I won't comment further on this as that is my piece.