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| Players and coaches alike have moaned for a few years now about the amount of games played. The magic weekend seems the perfect opportunity to reduce the SL season by a game. 26 rounds and an extra week to prepare for the end of season internationals, makes sense to me. Mind you, with Steve McNamara in charge 10 years wouldn't be enough time to prepare.
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| Rfl need to look at staging the competition in a smaller venue so it does not look so stupid on television,there is no way i would sit and watch 4 games of rugby straight after each other,once my team has played i would most likely go and find the nearest pub,a ground like Bolton (Reebok) or DW stadium would be perfect but the hotel situation could be a problem !!!!
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| How about just increase super league to 16 teams and have a radical idea of one up one down.....just a daft idea but you never know it might work
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| Quote: Dan155 "We can always try the alternative strategy of holding games at a small stadium in Yorkshire/Lancashire, we can all stand around and stare shiftily at outsiders who we suspect might have not watched the game before
Because that would be silly.
Those same people across the country have no more opportunity of watching the game in Edinburgh as they have in Wakefield. The thousands of empty seats at Murrayfield, a place where we have been taking the game for nigh on a decade, suggest to me the natives are not too bothered about the game but if the local Tourist Board want to give the game £1m (a claim I have not seen a link for yet) then yes, lets whore our backside to the nearest moneypig.
You could beam the games across the world, anyone tuning in could be easily forgiven for thinking 'what is this minority sport I have not seen before being played in an empty stadium? It cannot be much good if no bugger else is watching it'
I'd prefer the opening round to be played across the country, on the road as it was, Plymouth, Coventry, Wolverhampton, yes Cardiff and Edinburgh too, but at least use stadia we've got half a chance of filling, even if its thousands of schoolkids on freebies.
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| If the RFL were to keep the magic weekend, why not have it on the final bank holiday in May to avoid clashes with the PL football season and play it at the City of Manchseter satdium? Easy access, smaller stadium and plenty of hotels. Or just scrap it like i said before.
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| I think the Football League Playoff finals are on the Bank Holiday weekend at the end of May aren't they? In which case SKY won't want Magic Weekend then (and obviously they schedule the RFL calendar).
I agree with the point above about not wanting to sit and watch 4 games back-to-back so think it would be good to have a 'fan-zone' outside whichever ground it's at - this would provide extra entertainment, a chance to make more money, etc. A bit like the family fun-days at the Reebok for anyone that's been to one, but on a much bigger scale.
I also agree with the venue issue - Scotland is a dead horse that we need to stop flogging but there other non-heartland areas where RL is becoming increasingly popular (eg. Cov) that would benefit from such an event. Several such areas also boast smaller stadiums that we would have far more chance of filling.
I definitely agree with putting more attractive games (quite probably derbies) on that weekend, and with the idea of giving freebies out to local schools, etc. I also think the idea of having it as a 'season opener' could work well too.
I can understand the "why don't we just scrap it" arguement too, but don't feel the sport can afford to lose such a showpiece occasion when we have so few.
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| I am in favour of a magic weekend, hopefully there will be people who ahve seen teamst they might just go and see live in the future. As for numbers maybe the recession has had an effect, also are Sky's viewing figures up?
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| Quote: worldcup "I am in favour of a magic weekend, hopefully there will be people who ahve seen teamst they might just go and see live in the future. As for numbers maybe the recession has had an effect, also are Sky's viewing figures up?'"
The problem being the uptake on fans in Edinburgh following Leeds or Saints (or any other SL team) is going to be very very small.
For me scrap it altogether for a few years as its a tired format sliding a little.
Put Warrington v W!gan on in Swansea but have South Wales v AN Other as the curtain raiser.
Leeds v Bradford in Derby with Sheffield v AN Other as the curtain raiser.
Hull v Hull KR in Newcastle with Gateshead v AN Other as the curtain raiser.
3 guarenteed good gates that also involve teams local people will have heard of and also a chance to see a local team in action they have probably never heard of in case they want to carry on that interest in the game (with the emphasis on these fixtures being get in touch / come down and see your local RL team).
A telling point you make is at the end.
I suppose the question is do the people that pay all the money and effectively own the game view a sp(ish)stadium as success or a decent TV figures as success.
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| If "spreading the word" is one of the main factors driving the so called Magic Weekend then why not try a little closer to home now that Scotland has been shown as lower than expected (by the rfl) turn out from locals. Surely there are venues that could be used better in say Liverpool or Birmingham or even Manchester for that matter.I am sure those venues would have the infrastructure to be able to entertain people during and between games, whilst also being able to accomodate people who stay for the whole weekend. I just think their is more chance of building fans by gradualy moving out from our tradional borders. It surprises me that there is no RL so to speak of in Liverpool or the Midlands or Manchester (save Salford) .
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: DemonUK "Its a free country, we all have our opinions and we are allowed to express them. All you have expressed are your views of me. What are your views on the reasons for the huge drop in interest. Ideas might look good on paper, but the proof of the pudding and all that.
[sizeJust imagine how much money Leeds have lost on this venture. They would have had 15000+ for this fixture instead they effectively had 6500.[/size
Incidentally it was a question LL. Those figures suggest the fans have lost interest, therefore I think it could be classed as a flop.
Come on LL based on the evidence, do you think it is a flop or another success for Rugby League, simple question'"
This is an extra fixture though. They still have the 15000+ fixture that you say. Its a 'bonus' which a lot of people seem to enjoy. If leigh were in SL i'd love to spend a weekend watching rugby. However it should go back to cardiff and derbies.
In 6 years when Basil has lead us to glory I would love to spend a weekend in Cardiff Watching:
Wigan V Saints
Hull V Hull KR
Leeds V Bradford
Leigh V Salford
Cas V Wakey
Widnes V Wire
Cats V Crusaders
Huddersfield V Halifax
The idea is fantastic, so far the execution has been poor.
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| I'm sure its a great weekend on the lash for those who go, but I doubt that was top of the priority list for the RFL's when they introduced it.
Toulouse is a good drink too but I'm not sure I'll be dancing in the streets if they get a nod over us next time round.
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| What is it with RL fans that as soon as something appears to be a flop, they're actually cheering the fact? Wierd... no wonder we're a dying sport.
It should be the first weekend of the year, a season opener, and should go back to local derbies.
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| So its my fault the game is dying, get a grip. If we had cracked London spreading the game would have been easier, the media have had many years to get interested in the sport and they still can't give a toss, we are in South Wales, oh no sorry that didn't work....again, but the team moved up to nearer the heartlands. We are in London....more people in the North of England know this than people who actually live in London. I would love the game to become more than a minority sport. Terrestrial TV would give us more of a chance to spread the word but SKY have a monopoly, even the last remaining bastion of RL on terrestrial TV, the Challenge Cup will more than likely disappear to pay TV and a vastly reduced audience. No one can or even will offer even half what SKY give SL teams at the moment. When is the contract up for renewal? and what odds it will be a lower offer than this one. Will the RFL be able to afford to refuse Skys offer, I doubt it
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| imagine this on Sky.
Eddie Hemmings "well Stevo, it's not been a great turn out at Murrayfield Magic has it, i bet only 2% of the fans were Scots, so it kinda defeats the object"
"Yes Eddie, it has been a poor turn out, and overall a 'worthless' excercise"
HA HA HA
OR will it just be the typical SKY/RFL method of sell sell/promote/ignore the facts
me thinks the latter.
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| If the RL are so keen to stage a weekender to promote and open up the game to the masses, why not try a 20/20 style competition (20 minute halves) to be held at a suitable venue over two days on one of the May Bank Holiday weekends?
16 teams (14 Super League & NRC Winners & CCGF Winners) in a straight knockout with the first round to be played on Saturday and Quarters, Semis & Final to be played on Sunday. That would be 15 x 40 minute games over 2 days.
With the added playing time for the teams that progress to the later rounds, the draw would need to be structured in such a way to maximise rest times between rounds. Rules re subs would also need to be tailored (eg 10 per game) and clubs could take larger squads to the event (eg 30 per squad).
For me, it could open a whole new facet to our game, and may open up RL to more floating viewers. Look what 20/20 did for cricket.
Clubs may find that they adapt better to a shorter version of the game and this could potentially break up the status quo of clubs that win the CC & SL each year.
Given the gruelling nature of winning over 160 minutes in 2 days, teams would be forced to rotate using some youngsters. I think it could do wonders for a young players development to come up against a Gidley or a Menzies.
For me it's a winner. A whole new brand of RL to showcase and a new competition for clubs to play for, which the game needs IMO.
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