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Quote: jools "

Mr Holland,you are a sick man with a statement like that. Would you like a ticket for the premier club? Seeing that you are so interested in our club, you could give your sinister views there. Then again YOU only come on here to relish any adversity that comes out from our club. So once again Mr Holland - !$$ OFF. icon_wave.gif

BTW - I see your club is very strong at the moment, Holding the rest of the league up. icon_lol.gif

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FWIW I am not looking forward to being up in the premier club tomorrow

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Quote: DemonUK "FWIW I am not looking forward to being up in the premier club tomorrow'"


Why? Has Mr Holland decided to go. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Actually & FWIW, although I don't know you from Adam & wouldn't normally listen to one word uttered by a Fev Fan, I agree with much of what RFF & JGR are saying.

This Club *My much Loved Club* is in a worse than horrendous place right now.

1 season ago I only wished for one thing *promotion to SL for LCRLFC* .....
now I wish for a few things

1. Promotion to SL for LCRLFC
2. DB to STFU
3. Stability & to stop the rot within the Club.

To me, as JGR has quite rightly said, there seems to be many Leigh fans who might once have hailed Ryan as a hero & the best player outside SL etc *or similar types of reference to RB* who are now only too willing to denounce him as the Devil incarnate.

RB has consistently shown great passion for this fine Club who made him the player he is today & also for the fans who took him in as a valued member of the FamiLeigh.
He has been by far our most prolific try scorer & one of our top 3 most consistent performers.

Normally I would not have a bad word said about my most cherished RL Club, but IMHO * & I realise it might not be worth Jack*, DB is at the root of all of this discord within Leigh Centurions.

Yes he has backed the Club with his hard earned cash, yes again he has the best interests of the Club at heart & only wants the best for the Club, but he is making LCRLFC a laughing stock & has become a Mk1 version of MarwanK CarCrash.

Would PR still be Head Coach if it wasn't for DB ?
Would Alan Rowley still be on the BOD if it wasn't for DB ?
Would RB submit his notice if it wasn't for DB & the surrounding issues at LCRLFC ?

How many more players will leave by the end of this season ?
Is Rangi on his way out ?
Are Bob Beswick & Liam Kay banned from the Club/suspended ?

Did Derek interfere with or demand certain signings that maybe Paul Rowley did not want ? *Hock/Chase* ? Has Derek interfered with or demanded certain team selections ?
Is this why Paul left ?

Why would PR leave his home town RL Club which he has taken to NRC Champions, 2 x Championship League Leaders & a Championship Champions title & 2 successive Challenge Cup Quarter Finals ?

All of these things should sound warning alarms for all Leigh Centurions fans.

One thing is certain, should these issues not be resolved quickly & should we lose Beswick &/or Kay or any other stand out player then we can forget promotion, maybe not just this year either, this current turmoil could set the Club back 10 or 20 years.

If DB should suddenly give up on his dream of SL for Leigh, then what ?
A team full of players on top dollar with contracts that need to be paid, that's what.

Now, I haven't been a member of this forum as long as many here, but I stand by my opinions & I am prepared to take the bullets.

Either Derek has an epiphany of epic proportions & goes the same way as MarwanK Mk2 *allowing the Head Coach to coach & pick the team/signings or I really fear for our Club.

I won't be seeing you tomorrow *listening on MixLR* but I will be seeing you at Fax.

Good luck Leigh with everything.

& Derek ...... Getba Grip.'"


Best post I have read in a long time. Very sensible indeed. Leigh fans should, like any fan, defend their club. But not accept the words of the men in charge as gospel without questioning it too.

We Bulls fans swallowed enough of it in our problem times and it probably made things worse.

Not saying either party is right or wrong as I don't know enough about the situation but Leigh seems a million miles away from the team we visited on the opening day of last season.

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I was hoping to take a drive over from sunny Bradford tomorrow but can't make it now

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So most of you are choosing to bury your heads in the sand. Fair enough. What will you say when the next player leaves I wonder?

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Quote: propforward 2338 "Lots of things people don't like at work .But they cant just say im leaving ,jobs are hard to come by'"

Agreed but they do have a choice, same as RB, who knows if it's something he feels so strongly about ethically or is it just that Chase is earning more than him?

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Actually & FWIW, although I don't know you from Adam & wouldn't normally listen to one word uttered by a Fev Fan, I agree with much of what RFF & JGR are saying.

This Club *My much Loved Club* is in a worse than horrendous place right now.

1 season ago I only wished for one thing *promotion to SL for LCRLFC* .....
now I wish for a few things

1. Promotion to SL for LCRLFC
2. DB to STFU
3. Stability & to stop the rot within the Club.

To me, as JGR has quite rightly said, there seems to be many Leigh fans who might once have hailed Ryan as a hero & the best player outside SL etc *or similar types of reference to RB* who are now only too willing to denounce him as the Devil incarnate.

RB has consistently shown great passion for this fine Club who made him the player he is today & also for the fans who took him in as a valued member of the FamiLeigh.
He has been by far our most prolific try scorer & one of our top 3 most consistent performers.

Normally I would not have a bad word said about my most cherished RL Club, but IMHO * & I realise it might not be worth Jack*, DB is at the root of all of this discord within Leigh Centurions.

Yes he has backed the Club with his hard earned cash, yes again he has the best interests of the Club at heart & only wants the best for the Club, but he is making LCRLFC a laughing stock & has become a Mk1 version of MarwanK CarCrash.

Would PR still be Head Coach if it wasn't for DB ?
Would Alan Rowley still be on the BOD if it wasn't for DB ?
Would RB submit his notice if it wasn't for DB & the surrounding issues at LCRLFC ?

How many more players will leave by the end of this season ?
Is Rangi on his way out ?
Are Bob Beswick & Liam Kay banned from the Club/suspended ?

Did Derek interfere with or demand certain signings that maybe Paul Rowley did not want ? *Hock/Chase* ? Has Derek interfered with or demanded certain team selections ?
Is this why Paul left ?

Why would PR leave his home town RL Club which he has taken to NRC Champions, 2 x Championship League Leaders & a Championship Champions title & 2 successive Challenge Cup Quarter Finals ?

All of these things should sound warning alarms for all Leigh Centurions fans.

One thing is certain, should these issues not be resolved quickly & should we lose Beswick &/or Kay or any other stand out player then we can forget promotion, maybe not just this year either, this current turmoil could set the Club back 10 or 20 years.

If DB should suddenly give up on his dream of SL for Leigh, then what ?
A team full of players on top dollar with contracts that need to be paid, that's what.

Now, I haven't been a member of this forum as long as many here, but I stand by my opinions & I am prepared to take the bullets.

Either Derek has an epiphany of epic proportions & goes the same way as MarwanK Mk2 *allowing the Head Coach to coach & pick the team/signings or I really fear for our Club.

I won't be seeing you tomorrow *listening on MixLR* but I will be seeing you at Fax.

Good luck Leigh with everything.

& Derek ...... Get a Grip.'"



It's apparent you're not a DB fan, however I still think we have a good chance of getting into SL. Just let the dust settle. there is one thing i will say,Is I don't want to be standing watching a Leigh team with about 900 speccies like we once did.. BTW - FWIW we all had to digest all the crap from other folk when we finished at bottom of the middle 8s. It seems to me he is trying to put this right, Those who don't like it, then it's tough. Keep off his back until all fails.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "So most of you are choosing to bury your heads in the sand. Fair enough. What will you say when the next player leaves I wonder?'"


I am sure the truth lies somewhere in between what the club has said and what Ryan has said. If another player leaves then I will judge that case on its merits.

In this case, Brierley has been making all the right noises in public about wanting to stay with Leigh and get them into SL. But in private he has clearly wanted to engineer a move away from the club and the constant leaks regarding confidential information about him has been used to try and force the situation using the press to his and his agents advantage.

For all his talk about caring about the Leigh fans and his team mates he is walking out when we have no available cover for him, effectively leaving those fans and his team mates in the $hit.

He was given the Number 7 shirt and has played at 7 in 3 of our 4 matches so far this season. He isn't being pushed out, he was playing regular rugby in his chosen position on a wage that is surely one of the highest in the Championship.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "So most of you are choosing to bury your heads in the sand. Fair enough. What will you say when the next player leaves I wonder?'"


Why are you so interested? players come and go. So what.

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Quote: Cokey "Mr Holland,you are a sick man with a statement like that. Would you like a ticket for the premier club? Seeing that you are so interested in our club, you could give your sinister views there. Then again YOU only come on here to relish any adversity that comes out from our club. So once again Mr Holland - !$$ OFF.
Being bottom is something I'm very used to having been a life long fan- heard it all before and it's water off a ducks back especially when it's coming from someone even further below us.
Not sure who Mr Holland is but it's clear you are somewhat obsessed with the fella.
I've come on this board and made some observations from outside looking in- I wasnt rude or personal towards anyone on here unlike yourself. You seem to have a very defensive attitude. May I suggest you take a step back and look with fresh eyes.
It's clear that Leigh fans are very passionate about their club- perhaps some just need to realise that players and coaches may have a different view and that to them Leigh is an employer who they don't feel the same way about.

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Quote: Cokey "Why are you so interested? players come and go. So what.'"

On that subject, what's happening with Barlow?

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Quote: Norman Bates "Agreed but they do have a choice, same as RB, who knows if it's something he feels so strongly about ethically or is it just that Chase is earning more than him?'"



I wonder what Marcus Rashford thinks about Rooney being on about a quarter of million quid a week more than him?

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Quote: Norman Bates "On that subject, what's happening with Barlow?'"


I don't know for sure. Que sera sera

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Quote: jools "Being bottom is something I'm very used to having been a life long fan- heard it all before and it's water off a ducks back especially when it's coming from someone even further below us.
Not sure who Mr Holland is but it's clear you are somewhat obsessed with the fella.
I've come on this board and made some observations from outside looking in- I wasnt rude or personal towards anyone on here unlike yourself. You seem to have a very defensive attitude. May I suggest you take a step back and look with fresh eyes.
It's clear that Leigh fans are very passionate about their club- perhaps some just need to realise that players and coaches may have a different view and that to them Leigh is an employer who they don't feel the same way about.'"


You mean false accusations.

These are your words

As an outsider looking in I've seen Beaumont act as a classless prat with a big mouth and an unprofessional attitude- demonstrated numerous times.

So there you go Jools Holland. icon_wink.gif

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