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That I agree (Demon's post) with and it just shows what an uniformative story was printed by the Journal.

Maybe the writer of the story would clarify why the report did not have responses from the club and the LSV.

After that trajic liner accident off that Italian Island the press reported the captain jumped into a lifeboat before the passengers had departed.

Does not mean it is true does it ?

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Quote: mr. chairman "very negative on here regarding our past players which is unfair . you talk about the ceo not being here fair enough but keith freer and others were here . nice to see the lsv as reduced the payments for leigh centurions , i hope they do the same for leigh east who continue to struggle financially . lets face it keith freer and the rest should have sorted it sooner before it got out of hand . its not nice to see comments about past players who struggle with health problems because of the pounding they took playing for leigh . some should try putting a rugby shirt on for a few games to actually know what it feels like . personally i blame the lsv and the past board for not sorting it earlier. i would welcome them with open arms to leigh east but they want to be at the club they represented , cant blame them can you . as an ex coach i'm dissapointed for them . one last thing when the papers get hold of a story they can slant the truth a little . believe me i know'"


Agree totally,
Some surprising comments directed at guys who have put there bodies on the line for the club and fans.
I certainly hope this can be sorted, not interested in who is right or wrong but lets put it right as soon as possible.

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Quote: mr. chairman "why dont they let them have a table in the big room for every home game , i'm sure the speccies would love to chat with them before during and after the game . 99 per cent of footy clubs do this. if it was me id give them a small room for free instead of all the other free loaders'"


The big problem is that the PPA has decided to take this story public whilst at the same time saying that there's no way back. So why take the story public at all. There's nothing that can be done if you believe their statements.

The way the PPA has been treated was wrong. But if that can be fixed going forward then the PPA's stubbornness is helpful to nobody.

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Quote: mr. chairman "why dont they let them have a table in the big room for every home game , i'm sure the speccies would love to chat with them before during and after the game . 99 per cent of footy clubs do this. if it was me id give them a small room for free instead of all the other free loaders'"



Whilst I entirely agree with the sentiment here, given Leigh's precarious financial state where every penny has to be watched, who is going to pay for this room? It would be nice to have a dedicated room for past players and their momentos of their time, but without the LSV behind it, saying they will do it for nothing, it's only a dream.
If it were me in charge, not only would I found them a room, but I'd also find space in a bar for the museum, we really need that back with the club itself.

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Bad story - The way I see it though is that Leigh are in a no-win situation. Trevor has responded how he sees fit and I'm sure will try for a resolution. I would leave it at that for now until there is anything further to say.

History is what everything is built on but the immediate future of the club is paramount.

I respect what any former player did for my club, I respect anyone that has ever crossed a whitewash anywhere for the pleasure of a supporter but surely they can see the situation the club are in?

This club will progress, it will get stronger but only with everyone pulling in the same direction.

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Quote: mr. chairman "take a look in the harriers , leigh east and miners they are full of history . three of the best known rugby clubs in the country.'"


really?

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Quote: DemonUK "Isn't reffy a Wire fan .'"


Where the hell did that come from? I have been fortunate (or old enough) to have watched all the current members of the PPA and some who are no longer with us. To say I am disgusted with your crass, uninformed statement is putting it mildly. icon_mad.gif

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Quote: mr. chairman "but ex players and future ex players will not forget some of the comments on here if they read this board . leigh centurions must immediatley respond through the media. the past players are a real good bunch of men'"


Good men they may be and I respect what they have done for Leigh overall these years. It does sound like they have grounds for complaint - BUT they automatically lose the argument irrespective of their case by this extremely unhelpful and provocative action.

Do they seriously want to wreck all the hard work that has been done? Did they raise these issues when they thought the club was going under? No, they waited until as soon as it looked as though the club had a future and then dug up the corpse and paraded it around for all to see. The associations secretary has managed to keep his absence secret for the last 2 years and now it all comes out in the open.

Sabotage - that is what it is. And if it is not sabotage, it is simple naievete at best and plain stupidity at worst.

The people at the Leigh Reporter should examine their consciences as well. Do they think they are standing in for the News of the World or something?

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mr. chairman, I understand your passion on this. But tell me, how can Trevor fix this issue with the PPA if they won't even talk to him?

There are issues, there have been issues and there will be issues, and the PPA feel (rightly) disrespected - but how is bloody minded stubbornness the answer? If the PPA is willing to get around a table and talk to Trevor in a reasonable, professional way that befits their status, then my criticisms of them are withdrawn and only the club will have been at fault.

An amicable resolution to this could be in sight, if the PPA agree to talk to the club.

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Quote: reffy "Isn't reffy a Wire fan .'"


Where the hell did that come from? I have been fortunate (or old enough) to have watched all the current members of the PPA and some who are no longer with us. To say I am disgusted with your crass, uninformed statement is putting it mildly.
Is it that insulting to call you a wire fan? Where did what come from? I think you have missed the point of my 'crass uninformed statement', but not surprised really.

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Quote: mr. chairman "the lsv is within 500yds of centurions , miners and east . yet it as no visible signs of a rugby club , take a look in the harriers , leigh east and miners they are full of history . three of the best known rugby clubs in the country. i just get sick of the constant grinding down of our community by the lsv'"


Keith,

The LSV has given the go-ahead to put mementoes of the Club's history in the bar concourses, the Legends Bar and the Banqueting Room. The first evidence of this should appear in the North Stand concourse very soon - with the other areas following, as and when funds are available. (from the Club)

It has taken time, but was achieved by the Club and LSV getting together and talking. I am not interested in who is right or wrong over the PPA issue - surely BOTH parties are big enough to sit down and talk, like grown-ups, and get these guys (many of whom I also am 'in awe of') back where they belong. I implore that they take up Trevor's offer, (which had the full backing of the PSG and wasn't just TB working off his own bat)

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To be fair the stuff that will appear in the concourse this weekend has been sorted by the Leigh community Trust ie Hannah and Heather with the lSV, the funding Hannah has got and she will look to have the West Stand done if and when she can get funding.
However Alan is right the Past Players do need to try and talk to the LSV with Trevor as Trevor always tries to sort things out, its not doing the Club any good all this bickering and backstabbing and telling tales to newspapers. I think we need the Past Players, they represent the History of the club, they wore their shirts with pride, it would be a crying shame for it to all be given up on, over things that happened in the past.
This last couple of years the Club and the LSV have been getting together and talking to each other and the LSV have started to help the club more and Im 100 % sure a resolution can be found. Perhaps the Past Players could elect a new spokesperson/chairman and starts talks with |Trevor and the LSV.

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There are two sides to every argument and as one poster has said, we haven't heard the LSV side, only that of the Past Players. I don't think this is a major problem because from what I understand there is only a handful of players involved. Alf Wilkinson was heavily involved with the PP association and so was Tony Cooke and Mick Stacey. Tony has fallen out with them for some reason and I dont think Alf or Mick are as much involved nowadays. I think Mick Martyn will be probably the instigator of the release to the Reporter last week and the Journal this. Lets hope the publicity can bring the two sides together with a mutually agreed arrangement.

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Do Leigh Centurions not rent the stadium or parts of the stadium on match days? If so, isn't it then down to the Centurions who is and isn't allowed in the various rooms/lounges? Or do Leigh Centurions only pay a percentage of every ticket/hospitality package sold? Do Leigh Centurions therefore have to pay to accommodate visiting directors/non-playing staff?

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Here's a solution:

PPA members pay £100 a year to LCRLFC, LCRLFC provide a seasons pass to the upstairs bar and LSV agree to moving the Hall of Fame into the bar.

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