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Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "You know Celtic can't compete with clubs like us, by the same rules as us. Its obvious. Unyet they still get bitter comments like the other thread on here, when they are basically achieving at least similar to ourselves when we was in SL, if not better.
Every success they have negetive comments are made about they have different rules etc. Unyet nothing is said about benefits we have which they don't.
As for devaluing the comp. Celtic as you know would not be in SL now had they not got promoted into our league. They then rubber stamped their inclusion for SL by being 2nd best team too.
Anyway its all been said many times......'"

Whats your expansionist aliases on the VT................ icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "The only problem I see with only 4 teams is would them places had been monopolised by the same clubs anyway.'"

But try and name those 4 clubs in this league and there are going to be some noticeable exceptions - a team missing out on the play-offs every couple of years will increase the significance and highlight the achievement when they do manage to make the cut.

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Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "Whats your expansionist aliases on the VT................
I have posted once on the VT in the last 6 months. I don't post on here much nowadays either. Though I do like to read the actual rugby threads - because we may have some of biggest moaners in the game but we also have some of most knowledgeable too. And of course we all may have differing opinions but we all want Leigh to be the best icon_smile.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "You know Celtic can't compete with clubs like us, by the same rules as us. Its obvious. Unyet they still get bitter comments like the other thread on here, when they are basically achieving at least similar to ourselves when we was in SL, if not better.
Every success they have negetive comments are made about they have different rules etc. Unyet nothing is said about benefits we have which they don't.As for devaluing the comp. Celtic as you know would not be in SL now had they not got promoted into our league. They then rubber stamped their inclusion for SL by being 2nd best team too.
Anyway its all been said many times......'"


Are those benifits set by the RFL , or are they the result of decades of work by many people from our towns

You cannot artificially ' even things up ' , it is impossible , to even try is madness

It takes time , lots of it , there is no easy fix that does not impound upon the existing clubs , but as I said earlier , the RFL have no interest in those clubs

We know we cannot replicate what we have in football , perhaps we shouldn't want to as they have their own problems

The problem is not hard to find , it is money , or the lack of it

The RFL know this and are trying to follow the RU ' model ' of building an International money making structure

Which in itself is fine , but in the meantime they are neglecting the heartland clubs outside SL , their efforts so far to build up the competitions are laughable , they have no idea's other than the ones they are trying in SL

A foreign trip and a poor relation MM weekend in Blackpool

As I have posted on other boards , it is probably now time to look at what benifits the TV deal has produced if any

Unfortunatley the RFL in their quest for ' Positivity at all times ' will say it has been a great success and sign us up again for another 3/4 years on the same deal

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "But try and name those 4 clubs in this league and there are going to be some noticeable exceptions - a team missing out on the play-offs every couple of years will increase the significance and highlight the achievement when they do manage to make the cut.'"


I agree with your top 4 tbh. Maybe that is a change we need now to help the comp.

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Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "I have posted once on the VT in the last 6 months. I don't post on here much nowadays either. Though I do like to read the actual rugby threads - because we may have some of biggest moaners in the game but we also have some of most knowledgeable too. And of course we all may have differing opinions but we all want Leigh to be the best icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "I was not claiming the hard work done at East's or Miners as anything other than what it is , the people of this town wanting to play the sport and see the youngsters of the town also play the sport


As long as you attempt to ' Even things out ' it will never work , as I said previously it is impossible , at what stage is even ? , more money ? How much ? , more overseas players ? , how many ? , having one team excempt from relegation ?

It is like having one team playing with more players than another from the start , it cannot work

I would have no ,problem if the RFL want to tip millions into junior development in new area's , fine , as long as they declare what they are doing and the long term benifits it will bring

As an answer to your question , X and Y

Answer me this , is it better to have a league full of clubs that can support themselves than a bigger league full of clubs on the verge of banckruptcy ?'"


You don't have any clubs put in SL on the verge of being bankrupt.

OK Celtic are not allowed Aussies, and have to abide by Salary cap. I have asked this question a long time ago and nobody could answer it then either.
How can a chairman with loads of money get his club in SL as quickly as possible? He doesn't want to hang around, because he has the clout. Football chairmen can spend and buy success etc.
He wants to create interest in the area, and has big plans. If its not fair to even things out, how do RFL help them to compete against rules that are against this new club?.

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