...but that's the problem, though.... its a complicated subject, you can't have these selected quotes without the 12 pages. The tabloids deal only in the selected quotes, and the BNP depend upon nobody bringing up the 12 pages of discussion, history, context etc, until all we have are slogans with no substance but with the power to create fear and hatred.

The big problem W71. Religeon. In order for our native religeons ( catholic, protestant, hindu, urdu, and muslim) to be taken out of the schools you had be ready for the rioting it will cause and it wont come from the first four of the religeons that I mentioned. The doo gooders in succesive governments have given in too much to these comunities and I believe that the religeon thing is probabley the root of the rise in racism.
When communities can see there churches being knocked down and new mosques being built, then what are the locals going to think?
I totaly agree with every one of these communities having to speak english first and foremost.
We were frightened of treading on some of these peoples toes so have left them to their own devices.
As you very rightly said W71 "intigration" is (or was) the key to a lot of the problems that we are now facing and I hope they come up with a well thought out answer to them. Not some knee jerk one that is debated in front of half a dozen MP's at midnight.

Urdu is a language - not a religion!!



And, if [i"churches are being knocked down, and new mosques being built"[/i - this would indicate to me that the churches were not being used. I am not aware (post Reformation) of any churches being pulled down for anything other than economic reasons (i.e. no longer having enough regular attendees to maintain the up-keep of church buildings)
If churches are being compulsorily purchased, and parishes forced out, to facilitate the building of mosques then that would be a scandal. If you have evidence of this, please provide the links!!

Again, the perceived issues of religion conflicting with nationalism are not new. Germany, as a nation-state, was founded only in the last 30 years of the 19th century. At that point, there was a major rift between the Protestant, Prussian-dominated northern lands (who were the drivers behind the unification of the disparate German states), and the southern, Catholic areas.

It was thought that Catholics, owing an allegiance to the Pope which used divine authority to override any obligations to nationhood, meant that Bavarians could never truly be Germans. This period of persecution of Catholics, and tensions between the two communities, was called the Kulturkampf ('Cultural struggle').

As I'm sure you all know, within 40 years of this, southern Germany became the base for the most rabid, vehement and poisonous nationalist movement the world has ever seen, led by a Roman Catholic Austrian with uncontrollable flatulence (true), Herr Adolf the b@stard.

We have similar issues expressed in the perceived conflict between loyalty to Britain and loyalty to Islam. I don't have a simple answer to this, but the historical evidence from Germany, at least, is that time will erode those cultural struggles, and in a generation or two, the issue will have ceased to be an issue...

...unless, of course, we allow religous groups to run schools, keep their kids apart, tell their kids all other religions are wrong but the one true God is with them, and so on. And that goes for all religions.

I'd go so far as to join Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins in proclaiming that 'taching kids to follow a particular religion is child abuse', but not everyone (including my catholic missus) would go that far. But certainly religion should not be a reason to keep kids from different backgrounds apart in the school system.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEYffjvsBY watch this, if people voting for the BNP are stupid, got knows what people who vote for anyone else are.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEYffjvsBY watch this, if people voting for the BNP are stupid, got knows what people who vote for anyone else are.

After such a crap day I do not want to be reading this nonsense on here.
This thread should have been banished 16 pages ago.
This is for RL not for party political broadcasts for the numbskull party or a platform for wishy washy liberals or sons and daughters of thatcher.

Our right wing and soft centre are the real and only debate.

I totally agree get this subject off and lets talk Rugby this topic should have been posted on the website which is run by a power mad internet bully I think its called Leigh something or other

Thank you for this.

Below this video are a series of comments from the people who have watched it. Let me cut and paste them for you.

I don't think anything I could say would make it clearer why the BNP must be stopped at all costs, on every forum, and and every opportunity.

Well I think everyone who has posted on this thread knows I agree with you and the comments of those who responded on U Tube with their views quite frankly disgust me.

I have to say however I thought the Dewsbury MP was saying things which to people,even like me, who thought he was tongue in cheek,are quite silly.

I do not believe in a supreme being. I do not believe that a supreme being decided on a Monday to create the planet we live on and finished just before supper on Saturday evening then had a day off cos he was so tired.

It,s not just poorly educated Asians who believe this sort of nonsensce we have flat earthers people who think Wigan will get in the top six people who think the earth was created 4400 years ago on a Saturday evening and amazingly didn,t take Bank Holidays into account.We have some who think Christ was born of a virgin on Dec 25 when us orthodox folk know he wasn,t.

It wasn,t like this when Doris Stokes was alive was it ? She knew what she was talking about. Where is she now ?

Leigh to win the NRC Final or Championship this season ? No comment:cry:

This has been a party political broadcast from the " W71 I dont live any where near Leigh party "

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