Maurice I’ve a few questions.

100 people paying £50 per month is only £60k per year, do you know that attendance figures or we have other investors willing to make up the difference?

Why exclude the potential smaller investor? For those who can’t afford £50 per month, could none voting ‘shares’ be purchased at say for £5 per share, this allows them to buy into their club, family and friends could buy them shares for their birthdays etc?

Or why not try for 200 people at £5 per wk? (Didn’t the lottery initially start out as the 200 club?)

Or have Bronze member - 100 people x 5/wk = £26k/yr
Silver members - 50 people x £50/mth = £30k/yr
Gold members – the corporate club

I’m currently a lottery member paying £104 per year and £110 – £140 (?) for my season ticket, if I decide to pay £50/mth (£600 per year), would I still need to do this as well or would this mean in real terms I’m looking for an additional £400?

One thing which would need to be a condition of any supporter led investment is that the balance sheet needs to be cleaned up - ie Directors' loans need to be capitalised.

Nothing particularly radical about this but often there is a reluctance for investors to accept the realities of the situation.

I think that whilst what is being discussed is a good medium term plan the immediate issues can only be resolved by a significant investor/s taking a professional approach to the transition and dealing with some of the core issues.

Hopefully this is happening as we speak!

GLOW I agree, but we have an immediate need and hence a simple solution.
Toady is the beanie, and knows the legals required.
I would like to see my kids buying me £20 of shares at Xmas/Birthdays instead of socks and undies, imagine 1000 fans getting the same every year !!!
This fantastic opportunity will be about passion, transparency, community and a great feeling of togetherness that will make us unstoppable because the people driving it will have that same passion we have lacked.
Finally, Yes this group will be one of many generating the £150k we need every year - £25k would be our share, £50k would be brilliant.
I expect some great news these next couple of days, followed by great times ahead and a broom through the club to allow them to happen.
The future is very bright if we get behind what will happen.

Now now

OK, OK Toady is not like all the other Beanies

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If LISA isnt wanted so be it, however Im sure we could turn it into what is required rather then start from stratch.
I feel as if Ive been kicked in the teeth.
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Pointless thread, every time we are in 'crisis' this topic comes up from the same originator

Average home attendees - Say 2000
Of those how many visit this forum? - 250-350? (If That)

And you need 250 people to make 150k possible which in my opinion is not going to happen posting on here maurice

Nothing will happen today or tomorrow or the day after that. To set something like this up to potential investors (which is what everyone is) you need a proposed plan so these fans ensure their money gets used correctly. Where is the plan? Organise a presentation evening? Hire a hall and present to everyone what the proposition is instead of posting here. Spread the word in the journal.

If you say 100k per annum marketing budget will bring you in 1000 extra fans over a twelve month period not only is it healthy for club stature but also at £14 a game you would bring 40k profit into the club. even if we only bring in 700 extra fans and make a small loss in that department of £2k you are still seeing average gate figures pushing 3xxx

The key to growth is investment and unfortunately maurice I do not believe that you will find 250 people here that are financially stable in the current climate to invest in your 'idea'

If you are that confident why not re-mortgage, invest and pump that money into the club and when your ideas come to fruition set up the trust and repay the director loan to yourself using the supporters trust to drive the club forward.

But again you will not find 250 people throwing £50 a month at you on rlfans, I personally would rather make extra £50 a month payments on my loan and clear it 10 months early.

People need to get a grip!

Nobody yet knows the motives or indeed the implications of Mr Thomas' decision to retire, yet the infighting, bickering and bitching it has caused on here is ridiculous considering this was such a happy place on Sunday night.

There was enough in Monday's press release to make me believe that Mr Thomas' decision won't be the end of the world.

Can't people just wait until the next announcement before they get the razor blades & violins out or indeed launch their takeover bids?

rlhttps://www.supporters-direct.org/page.asp?p? Also a good place to start: www.supporters-direct.org/home.asp?reg=engwal# As someone very involved in a supporters trust, it is something I would promote for the future of sport. For a number of reasons, my "involvement" in Leigh RL is only from afar these days, but a supporters trust can only be a positive. From the 1st link, you can see the difference between a trust and an ISA, both can co-exist if that is what all really want and no one needs to be kicked in the teeth. More power to the trust elbow should it happen.

rlhttps://www.supporters-direct.org/page.asp?p? Also a good place to start: www.supporters-direct.org/home.asp?reg=engwal# As someone very involved in a supporters trust, it is something I would promote for the future of sport. For a number of reasons, my "involvement" in Leigh RL is only from afar these days, but a supporters trust can only be a positive. From the 1st link, you can see the difference between a trust and an ISA, both can co-exist if that is what all really want and no one needs to be kicked in the teeth. More power to the trust elbow should it happen.

Lynda, you are taking this the wrong way - nothing in Mo's post is a dig at LISA or yourself. We all realise the hard work you do with little help but he is just stating that membership has fallen alot since the early years and that the Trust could have been an option for LISA to re-brand - raising the same money from existing members but at the same time maybe attracting many new members to a new venture, something that LISA cannot do in it's present form. At the end of the day all money goes to the Centurions and the board will decide where it's spent (players, youngsters, gas bill etc) regardless of what we think the money is going to.

Trevor Barton wanted to set up the original supporters trust. I am sure that he will still have the contacts and paperwork. The majority of LISA members present did not want to join though there were not many in attendance and the chance to launch the trust at the same time of opening the ground was lost. Its still not too late to start the trust, perhaps Maurice should start by contacting Trevor and take it from there. Membership forms in the programme and leaflets handed out at the ground could get people joining at say £25 per month including a season ticket, it might even attract some LISA members. Count me in any supporters trust

I think we are all jumping the gun here ,lets see what happens before acting ,LISA is doing a great job ,always has done , along with the other fundraising efforts , dont lets destroy them ,whatever happens keep these going ,Lynda ,Derek ,myself and others have worked hard to get to this point.

If others want to pledge more cash then by all means do,good on you, my only interests are what is good for Leigh Centurions, i thank Arthur for what he has done ,but life goes on ,we WILL survive ,someone will pick up the Baton ,and carry it further,with all our help ,tome Leigh Supporters are the BEST ,and will pullout all the stops ,we need to stay calm,and see what rises up in the next few weeks .

Well said!

However, wouldn't this be a wonderful opportunity, for whoever takes over, to harness the willingness of supporters to get involved (financially or otherwise) to give this club a real boost?

It’s only in these situations that these things get discussed, and provided people don’t take them personally, then it should be good to debate the options, whether anything comes from them or indeed is even needed only time will tell.