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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "
Of course it wasn't, and I wouldn't expect it to be, but I think a bit of humility might be required in the situation.
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i would have thought the head coach would have shown humility first
Also my comment was to just bring attention to a blatant mis-truth.
i'd agree there was a good half a rooms worth though and those that did attend are obviously passionate about the club.
the blame for the clubs predicament must land squarely at the feet of that certain person who thought it a good idea to change the clubs name and team colours then not to bother with a sponsor and just put them clubs new name on the shirt.
OH and the over blown wages payed to the players who im told are on more money per week than the average championship rugby player.
i think "humilty" is the wrong word too as implies i should be humble before the LG people.
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| Genesis lost 2-0 @ home to chorley today, Amazingly Steve Waywell coaches chorley now!
Talk about full circle....
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| Quote: FredParky "Ah but if that planning permission has not been granted surely the old usage is still relevant?
Then again there aint a lot left and certainly not enough facilities for the league they are in?'"
Outline planning permission was granted originally, wasn't it? Could be wrong mind.
Don't think we'd be using the banking, Fred Would never work in the memory of mon, but I think the idea came from it being unused land etc etc.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "Quote: Leyther_Matt "....just another 1498 of your mates to go then!!
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| Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?
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| Quote: leythdave "Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
If that was going to be the original premise then fair enough, but wasn't it always supposed to be about helping the community and it's sports clubs?
rl2-0 win over Clitheroe todayrl
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "If that was going to be the original premise then fair enough, but wasn't it always supposed to be about helping the community and it's sports clubs?
rl2-0 win over Clitheroe todayrl'"
Well done Genesis on the win.
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| Here, here. Well done Genesis.
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| Quote: leythdave "Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
Do the Genesis pay the same to rent the ground as the Centurions ? If they do it doesn't matter if there is 10 or 10,000 in the ground.
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| Quote: leythdave "Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
I'd hardly say our crowds are pitiful given the league we're in and the way we've performed the last 12 months or so. We get better crowds than almost everyone else in our league so it's difficult to criticise especially when the club aren't in a position to offer any discounts due to the LSV.
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| Even if they could go back to HP it would cost thousands to put the ground anywhere near usable again. Making the pitch playable, building of a stand, terraces, floodlights, changing rooms etc.
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| Quote: The Kevster! "I'd hardly say our crowds are pitiful given the league we're in and the way we've performed the last 12 months or so. We get better crowds than almost everyone else in our league so it's difficult to criticise especially when the club aren't in a position to offer any discounts due to the LSV.'"
The crowds are way below the pound signs that the LSV are looking for, though. Lower than Hilton Park, in fact.
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| Quote: leythdave "Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
It is a council owned 'community facility' (or that is what it was marketed as originally!!) no different from swimming baths or libraries......and both of those are 'free' to use!!
I don't deny that the council should be trying to recoup their financial outlay on the building costs, and that the facilities need maintaining - but this should be a long term goal. It should be about 'realistic' running costs, and all the community sharing the financial burden for the benefit of all......not 'profit at all cost'!!!
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| Quote: Walt Mooney Fan Club "It is a council owned 'community facility' (or that is what it was marketed as originally!!) no different from swimming baths or libraries......and both of those are 'free' to use!!
I don't deny that the council should be trying to recoup their financial outlay on the building costs, and that the facilities need maintaining - but this should be a long term goal. It should be about 'realistic' running costs, and all the community sharing the financial burden for the benefit of all......not 'profit at all cost'!!!'"
Unlike the `community facilities` mentioned, the Leigh Sports Village is i believe managed by a private company (LSV co) with a board of directors. from the CEO downwards their wage bill alone will be in the region of approx 300k per annum. Assuming they charge centurions 10% of ticket sales on a 2k crowd x 13 = 31k.. a mere drop in the ocean towards the Village upkeep and more than likely doesn`t even cover the cost of fuel for the grounds maintenance vehicles.
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| "Community Facility" has been used a lot on this forum. But is it ? Or was it offered to the town in such a way? Sure the college and sports centre would be, and is a benefit to all - but unless you enjoy watching football or rugby (Leigh based teams - lots of folk support other clubs) then the stadium was never a "community facility". The stadium needs to pay for itself - simple as because the council tax payers shouldn't really be subsidising it.
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