Yes Nik they are doing well , pity they didn't have apply for a franchise

They could have been a real RFL success if they had

I dare say we would have done very well too if we had ex amount of overseas players ,lets not forget that ,it will be good to see a practically all Welsh lads playing for the team but that is a way off yet

What a crock you spout at times...... how long before they uproot them again?.
Before you make a reply I`m not against a welsh team based in Wrexham, just irked by that typical VT comeback in your last sentence. Which is totally irrelevant by the way but so much used by Expanso boys.

wasting your time bart man.this board seems to be overrun at the moment with ex leigh people with no interest in rl outside of sle.

Just because opinions differ from yours doesn't mean they are any less of a supporter. I would rather have Leigh in a more national competition in the 3rd division of 3 looking up to progress (with P&R), than be in a local sport competition in top division by virtual default. The 100 years prior to Sky money got us nowhere near this. At least money is being used towards this goal that then leads to more money in the game.

as iv'e said before,iv'e little interest in watching leigh in a league called SLE limited reguardless of how they get there.but if thats what the club wants then i'll go with it for now.i personally would love the people who run the sle limited organisation to pull up the drawbridge and be done with it.at least that way we all know were we stand instead of being left hanging around like little oliver twist <please sir can i have some more>.

Bugs me every time I see this type of statement - it implies that every club is expected to continually improve every year until after 100 years you are bigger than Real Madrid. It never happens like that. Leigh have had many years of success and decent crowds for most of its existence - but in the last 20 years or so we have fallen on hard times. It is not reasonable to compare Leigh and Crusaders. Crusaders have started off reasonably well but it is early days yet - can they survive the lean times like Leigh have (without the RFL bending over backwards) - because they will definitely come for every club..

how right you are.

the sad thing is they dont realise how ridiculous they sound when they continually come out with it.

That is it in a nutshell, the way to go.

Wigan finished top of the Super League, can't go any higher, fans are happy.
Leigh East finished top of the Conference, cant go any higher, fans are happy.

If Leigh Centurions finish top of the Championship, can't go any higher, fans should be happy, shouldn't they?

yes

Spot on , we are not in a golden era of watching live sport as we were between the turn of the century until the 80's when TV finally overtook the world , right now is THE most difficult time for any sports club not in the spotlight , we have our history , which some will claim is a positive , but it is also a hindrance , the Crusaders don't have any ' negatives ' in their past , they are currently on an upward curve , from a baseline start

They have no ' level ' to be judged against , no ' expectation ' to match , everything they achieve is something new , and therefore can be construed as good

This is why I constantly suggest we need ' new ' fans rather than ' ex , lapsed ' ones , we have to start to think like a new club , like an expansion club , with no pre conceived idea's as to what we ' do '

Very difficult question , I'll Need to sleep on this one , as I said in my previous post , our history can and does influence our opinion of things , that you cannot change , maybe one day in the future the fans of Leigh will be ' happy ' to be a reasonably successful Championship club

But at this moment with the fans And the memories they have now

No

Are Leeds United fans content to spend the rest of its existence in the Championship? How about Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Notts Forest or 20 to 30 other clubs that have experienced the "top-flight"?
I would be amazed if any of these fans would be! Why - they have tasted being at the top and they have the ambition and drive to get back there. Fans of Mansfield Town and Darlington maybe are not so bothered because they don't have that "pedigree" - they never had it and don't really know what its like.

Try comparing League to virtually ever other team sport going rather than the bizarre way RL has now structured itself.

If that is directed at me - been a Leigh supporter for over 40 years - once a Leyther always a Leyther. To have a professional RL team is North Wales is the best thing to happen to North Wales since the A55 and I can now get home to Leigh in 1.25 hours rather than 2.5.

Many people support a football team and a rugby team so why not 2 rugby teams (they are in different divisions - if both were in the same division there would be no contest - Leigh all the way). Could hardly ignore a professional rugby team on the doorstep after all these years. Yes Crusaders may not last in the long term but it has been great to experience a new and vibrant rugby league team this season - just hope the seeds are now sown. North Wales is crying out for some proper sport.

Have read this board almost daily for years - just occasionally a thread warrants a response, as this one did.

iv'e got no problem with wrexham,quins,catalan,sws,gateshead,scholors or any other club that wants to join the rfl.i dont think i ever have.i hope you enjoy your new club and i hope you enjoy all the benefits that being in the box brings.