What a load of b0ll0cks!!

This could be a very competant team at this level.

Coaching is understanding what your players are capable of, if you ask them to do something they are not capable of then they will under perform, if you coach them to play in a way that is below what they are capable of they will under perform.

So understanding there capabilities is a MAJOR component in getting a group of players to be successful as a TEAM.

FFS.................Donlan at CENTRE says it all, Lee Marsh half fit even in the squad is insanity, and the list goes on and on.

Overall the squad should be more than able to compete if understood and coached in a manner that allows them to use their abilities and strengths to their advantage.

ALL TEAMS HAVE WEAKNESS WITHIN THEM....................

Playing to your own weakness is asking for trouble.

All I will say is this.................................

If this continues then it is a FAILING OF THE CLUB AS A WHOLE at all levels.

FFS somebody sort this out.

Ja I bet my leetle libeling cud surt ot dis mess bring in my leetle obstkuchen der duften Biene herr flik he would be one for de kellys eye, hey my eengleesh is getting butter no?

Still to play Halifax (twice), Whitehaven (twice), Barrow (away), Widnes (home), Toulouse (home) - of the 'top' teams. On current form, we aren't going to get much from them. Then, there's the so-called 'lesser' sides to play away, like Batley (already embarrassed by them at home), Gateshead, and Featherstone. We'll have to buck up our ideas for them too!

I know you have not played some of the so called top teams in the league, but my point is that you have met them all at some stage or in some competition, except for Fax. You have watched them against your team in a competitive match. You have played Haven, Widnes, Fev, Barrow, Toulouse etc and I maintain the only one of those teams that really impresses me and looks much better than you at the mo , is Toulouse. How come all your other games(not just a one off) have been really tough battles and then all of a sudden you are hammered against Toulouse? I may be wrong, but to me, on the form they showed yesterday, they are clearly the best team you have faced this season and by some distance. It might not be of any consolation to you, but they will beat a lot of other sides too. It is the first time this season that I have been genuinely impressed and surprised by a team and credit to them. On the subject of having to buck up your ideas to beat Widnes, I do not think you do. You proved that all of nine days ago, when you beat them and based on the territory and dominance you had for the last twenty minutes, could have done so quite a bit more heavily. A lot of Leigh fans seem to forget the wins you have had. They were not flukes. They happened for a reason against Widnes, Haven, Donny, Sheffield etc. You were the best team on that day. You were robbed away at Fev and from what I have heard, were thrashing Barrow and should have taken the points and gone top of the league. I am not saying you are wonderful, but neither are most others in the league. You are definitely good enough to compete well and have already more than proved this. Believe me, it does not make it any better for you, but a lot of other teams in the division do not play the champagne rugby that every fan dreams of. I will say it again. Lots of teams will take points off each other this season and gone are the days when one team is constantly winning with cricket scores. I admire the way Toulouse played yesterday and would love Leigh to adopt a similar style. Leigh are definitely not fluent at the mo, but they do have talent. Guts and determination can only carry you so far. If they were in Super League, they would obviously be being thrashed. The reason that yesterday was the first time you've been hammered in this league, is that you have the ability for this level of rugby and playing in the right manner (more expansively and fluently) and getting your best team on the pitch, you could be a more than useful outfit IMO.

I have never seen Toulouse's Aussie half back Wynne play before, but he is huge for a scrum half, and top notch.

Nor have I seen the Toulouse centre Sebastien Planas be as exciting and dominant as he was yesterday.

After Salford got thumped by Catalans, coach McRae gave as one reason that it took the team 11 hours to get to Toulouse. Did it take Leigh fans that long? How could it take so long, when the air flight is only 90 minutes.

Salford are strapped for cash - it's all gone into their magnificent new stadium. Think they hitched to Catalans!

just got back from toulouse and yes leigh wernt good but to be fair toulouse are a very good side, size, strength, speed all over the pitch and i dont think any team will go there and win the rest of the season the only thing that will stop them getting in the top 3 is how well they travel to away games widnes wer very lucky to play them wen they did, they will be in SL next time the franchises are up

I have been home 30 mins and I,m not reading all through the thread cos I,m tired.

Toulouse surprised me because they were bigger faster and passed properly.

In contrast we didn,t pass well, tackle well and dropped too many passes.

I thought too many players had bad games at the same time and injuries to Donlan and Higson didn,t help.

Word is our stand off problem might be rectified sooner rather than later and maybe we can turn this around.

We have played 2 at home and 4 away and this season was bound to be one of good days and bad. I would like a more expansive game but you can,t play that if passes are going to players ankles or around the shoulders. Maybe that area of our game could be looked at.

Will we win Thursday ? Well the players I talked to after the game know the team played badly on the day. Lets hope for an improvement.

PS couldn,t fault the ref. Quel surpreese as we say in the posh part of Salford.

Food in Toulouse is very good and people very friendly but the price of the beer is extortionate.

Well must admit I had a few too many on Saturday after the game but that was cos I suffer very badly from depression. I have no idea why but I find going missing when its my round always makes me feel better.

The beer was good I thought and was also impressed with the red wine which I have to drink for medical reasons.

One thing I'd like to know from those there, how warm was it, as the Leigh lads were flagging after about 25 minutes.

Not too much warmer than when we arrived back at Liverpool this afternoon, in truth. Late teens, early twenties in centigrade, at a guess.