Still looking for that smoking gun?

Haven't seen anywhere that he turned down a contract with us, might have missed something in a press release though.

Toronto are running with the full salary cap from day one. Which means they can pay SL wages. What makes you think he's gone for half the money?

Greg saw his job through and behaved professionally on the field with admirable performances, steadying the ship in the back line during our push for Super League right through to the end. His best performances were often against our toughest opponents.

Whatever the reason for his departure he was very good value whilst he was with us and he should be allowed to leave with all of our very best wishes.

The point made by several that the Toronto bound players could be having their heads turned by the opportunity 'to travel' may indeed be true. However, from experience, I can assure everyone that after the third trip over the pond the novelty will rapidly wear off. The perceived excitement of repetitive international travel is just a peception. In reality the tiresome 8 hour journey coupled with the 5 hour time change in both directions messes up most peoples' body clock. In addition, I imagine the players will be travelling 'Cattle Class' without the benefits of upgraded travel. Families will also rapidly tire of missing the head of their family for lots of reasons - their kids will especially dread waving off their dads for the umpteenth time. Just imagine a player being seriously injured and in hospital 3,400 miles from home.

I hope for the sake of all the players involved that this Canadian experiment does not badly backfire on them and their families.

When did he sign/agree that Toronto contract and was one on the table from Leigh at the time? In there will be your answer but Greg didn't play for 6 weeks at a crucial time when the 2017 squad was being assembled, he was third choice centre behind Armstrong and Tonga at that point, and after 1st May he was free to talk to other clubs - if he hadn't been approached beforehand.
I said earlier if he was making his choice at the end of the season he would be a Leigh player in SL - I firmly believe that but as a Leigh fan I am only interested in whats best for my club not casting aspersions about the owner who has funded our journey from his pocket unlike some who ran for the hills and never put a bean in the till.
Leigh will always have the have not, never will do, know it alls looking to sheeite stir, better we ignore them and ask what we can do for our club, not the other way round

Just because it wasn't in the press doesn't make it any less true. I also said that Bob Beswick and Liam Kay had been suspended which everyone shouted me down for and told me I was wrong - turns out that was true too.

Do you really think I'd post this stuff if it wasn't true?

I'm not sure why you say that I'm looking for a smoking gun because players come and go all the time and that's OK, I just don't like it when the wrong stories are talked about on social media like they are fact. I'm very much looking forward to what the new season will bring and how the new players gel but lets not do our past players an injustice and a disservice by slagging them off and slating their character.

The problem with most of the people on here and the FB page is that none of you want to hear the truth and if someone presents you with the facts that in any slight way might be seen to be detrimental to the club, you'd all rather shout 'trouble maker' than open your eyes to the truth. It's OK that sometimes things go wrong between clubs and players and I guess the measure of how a club treats it's staff is how those leaving feel about the club afterwards.

The truth will set you free.

I don'the recall seeing loads of incorrect stories on social media. If any of this is true I also suspect some of it may be classed as confidential. If not true then that is also a serious matter. Maybe you should lock this one like you locked the other one where you were dropping your little incendiary devices.

Are you still a moderator? If so you now have one less member as I do not want any association with your little games.

Some players will leave any club on good terms , some will leave on bad terms , that has and will always happen

Coaches on the other hand rarely leave on good terms , they have either been sacked , or have jumped ship for more money/bigger club

The truth can be overrated , quite simply because you rarely actually get it , there are usually 2 versions of it , unless it's a War , where the winners get to tell the truth

Just saying like

Oh and regards the Toronto's lads travel , they will certainly have to get used to seeing the inside of a charabang , Newcastle , Skolars ,South Wales , etc , etc

You see what people say on here and on the FB page so how can you say you've not seen that? That's just madness.

How can it be confidential when it's all over Leigh? Don't ever think that the 20 or so people who shout the loudest on this forum and the FB page form the majority of opinion because you'd be way off the mark and I'm sorry if the truth of that offends or upsets you.

And yes, I am still a mod and the last time I looked no one has ever been sacked for telling the truth. Bye.

So, what is the truth then?

Agree with all of this.

Mish

While we are on the subject of truth is it true that while being employed as a player of Leigh Centurions, Beswick was signed off with work related stress however took on a role as Conditioner with Toronto and actually worked as a personal trainer in his time off with 'work related stress' training Toronto players? Yes it is true so good riddens to him.

Why don't you just get off your chest whatever crap you have on there and tell us the truth if you knew all along? Maybe you can take your nose out of past players s while your at it

Why can't you just ignore what's happened and support the club? Does it really matter what's already happened? I rarely post on here but see you post on both twitter and here and just wonder what your agenda is?

Certain players ran their blood to water with pride for Leigh and I wish Greg and Dixon all the best.

Why ask me if you know it to be true? As for having my nose up the players s, why would I? I don't even know them on a personal level. I'll tell you what really gets on my goat though, when only halve truths come out and everyone is suddenly so keen to diss the players that have previously had exemplary records without asking themselves why certain things happened.

I wish ALL the players that have left us all the best, they all served us well and we wouldn't be where we are today without them.

That's all I have to say and I can't be d repeating myself again.

How would you know whats the truth and whats not, people who don't know you tell you very confidential information for no apparent reason? Whats the old saying about the other one having bells on it. Support your club and its current structures, and stop pooh stirring would be my advice or better still listen to GUBRATS.

Players come and go for all sorts of reasons, I thank them all for their efforts and wish them well