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I keep reading about how fax would never have scored if Leigh didnt make the mistake but could we say leigh would have only scored 1 try in the game if we had not made the mistake in the last minute and Leighs first try had been ruled out on what im sure the video will show was a forward pass? At the end of the day is there a try that does not come from some sort of mistake?

Leigh had nearly as much trouble scoring as Fax did which I think says a lot for how Fax performed given about £600K difference in the squads, I think it would even be fair to say we finished the game much stronger than Leigh although I had expected that with Leigh playing Bradford the week before, I had said to people around me if we could be within 6 at half time I think we will go on and win the game as Leigh start to tire trying to get out from the south stand. It wasnt to be though and its all ifs and buts. On the whole though I thought it was a very good game considering the conditions and Leigh controlled the game perfectly in the first half and probably just about deserved the win. For Fax I think we showed a lot of promise and we will get better as the drier grounds come but our pack looks better than last year and impressed and we will not play teams of the talent of Leigh every week. Tough game at Batley though next week which is now a must win game.

Edit: Just seen the trys and Leighs first try does not look forward. 2nd try would have been interesting with a video there as Kay's foot goes near the sideline. I think Moi Moi could easily have been binned thought for his 'tackle'.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I keep reading about how fax would never have scored if Leigh didnt make the mistake but could we say leigh would have only scored 1 try in the game if we had not made the mistake in the last minute and Leighs first try had been ruled out on what im sure the video will show was a forward pass? At the end of the day is there a try that does not come from some sort of mistake?

Leigh had nearly as much trouble scoring as Fax did which I think says a lot for how Fax performed given about £600K difference in the squads, I think it would even be fair to say we finished the game much stronger than Leigh although I had expected that with Leigh playing Bradford the week before, I had said to people around me if we could be within 6 at half time I think we will go on and win the game as Leigh start to tire trying to get out from the south stand. It wasnt to be though and its all ifs and buts. On the whole though I thought it was a very good game considering the conditions and Leigh controlled the game perfectly in the first half and probably just about deserved the win. For Fax I think we showed a lot of promise and we will get better as the drier grounds come but our pack looks better than last year and impressed and we will not play teams of the talent of Leigh every week. Tough game at Batley though next week which is now a must win game.

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This is from a Fax fan who has the cheek to say I post tripe icon_eek.gif plenty of IFS as well as ANDS from GFB,on drier grounds we would score 40 against Fax ,I've just seen the highlights on Fax TV from a Fax point of view icon_eek.gif It in my opinion shows Liam Kay got to the ball first to score in the second half before Brown did,and also Fax claim Johnny Powell knocked on when he clearly doesn't.

For me Fax had a very big percentage of possession in the second day half yet DID only score from a Leigh mistake and their back biting tactics trying to goad the Leigh players aren't good,for me Fax will struggle to make the top 4 this year.

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One more thing Greg. The video ref can't rule
On forward passes. Oh and I would have a bet that there isn't that much of a difference in our two salary budgets.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I keep reading about how fax would never have scored if Leigh didnt make the mistake but could we say leigh would have only scored 1 try in the game if we had not made the mistake in the last minute and Leighs first try had been ruled out on what im sure the video will show was a forward pass? At the end of the day is there a try that does not come from some sort of mistake?

Leigh had nearly as much trouble scoring as Fax did which I think says a lot for how Fax performed given about £600K difference in the squads, I think it would even be fair to say we finished the game much stronger than Leigh although I had expected that with Leigh playing Bradford the week before, I had said to people around me if we could be within 6 at half time I think we will go on and win the game as Leigh start to tire trying to get out from the south stand. It wasnt to be though and its all ifs and buts. On the whole though I thought it was a very good game considering the conditions and Leigh controlled the game perfectly in the first half and probably just about deserved the win. For Fax I think we showed a lot of promise and we will get better as the drier grounds come but our pack looks better than last year and impressed and we will not play teams of the talent of Leigh every week. Tough game at Batley though next week which is now a must win game.

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I was stood virtually in line with the left hand touchline and Kay was comfortably still in play I'd have said, even from the other end of the ground looking down the line. Likewise our disallowed try in the second half would be interesting viewing with a video ref.

Still, I think many people might have discounted 'Fax a little but the pair of us plus Bradford, London, Sheffield, Featherstone, Dewsbury and Batley at the very least will all think we're in with a serious shout of a top four spot.

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It's Rugby it's a non exact sport what comes around goes around etc etc etc this time we won Fax lost get over it.

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I did chortle at those Yarkie sayings by the ageing Fax fans....Gerrum onside and forrard....

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AAh yes Bartie the cries of the one eyed YAWKshire goony bird but hey
you have forgot the stage whispered OOOHHHs and AAAhs when ever one of their favourites got tackled anywhere higher than their liberty bodices, after all we know all Fax players go to mass three times a day help old ladies cross the street and make their own dresses, the little darlings.

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On forward passes. Oh and I would have a bet that there isn't that much of a difference in our two salary budgets.'"


Sorry I think you mixed up the try I was on about. I said the first looked forward but on viewing the video it is not. The second on watching the game I thought was fine but now Im pretty sure he is in touch. As I have just posted on the Fax forum on the video Brown looks to get to the ball before Kaye in his hatrick try and unless I see another angle that says other wise I think no try would be given. That said I was retorting to Leigh fans saying we would never score rather than trying to pick holes in the result which I even mentioned I thought was a fair result. I even tried making an excuse up for why Fax finished the game looking fitter than Leigh just for good measure.

As for the physicality aspect, to me it looked like it was very much a case of Fax getting on top of Leighs forwards to the extent of when the 4 big tackles come in succession leading to Leigh dropping the ball that one of the Leigh players aims an obscene gesture at one of our players. Did we do enough to win the game? No. Did we rattle Leigh and give them a game despite the gulf in player wages? Yes. For that I am more than happy and optimistic for the rest of the season.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Sorry I think you mixed up the try I was on about. I said the first looked forward but on viewing the video it is not. The second on watching the game I thought was fine but now Im pretty sure he is in touch. As I have just posted on the Fax forum on the video Brown looks to get to the ball before Kaye in his hatrick try and unless I see another angle that says other wise I think no try would be given. That said I was retorting to Leigh fans saying we would never score rather than trying to pick holes in the result which I even mentioned I thought was a fair result. I even tried making an excuse up for why Fax finished the game looking fitter than Leigh just for good measure.

As for the physicality aspect, to me it looked like it was very much a case of Fax getting on top of Leighs forwards to the extent of when the 4 big tackles come in succession leading to Leigh dropping the ball that one of the Leigh players aims an obscene gesture at one of our players. Did we do enough to win the game? No. Did we rattle Leigh and give them a game despite the gulf in player wages? Yes. For that I am more than happy and optimistic for the rest of the season.'"


Greg the best thing you can do with the video is watch it backwards at least then you'll manage a draw.

What is the gulf in players wages?

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Quote: glow "Greg the best thing you can do with the video is watch it backwards at least then you'll manage a draw.

What is the gulf in players wages?'"


If Leigh are up to the cap which I have seen suggested then I am lead to believe that it is close to £600K. Imo we have a very talented squad but a real lack of depth which we simply can not afford. In terms of spend I would estimate us been somewhere near the 6th or 7th highest spenders in the league.

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Suggested? as players wages are usually conducted in secret any suggestions are purely guesswork at best and fantasy at worst, by your working out Bradford should have beaten us but did they? NO, stop clutching at straws Halifax were beaten you will have your chance of revenge soon enough look forward to that instead of stupid arguments trying to justify your teams loss.
Look forward to your next game not back at your last, Im sure thats what Richard will be saying to your lads.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "If Leigh are up to the cap which I have seen suggested then I am lead to believe that it is close to £600K. Imo we have a very talented squad but a real lack of depth which we simply can not afford. In terms of spend I would estimate us been somewhere near the 6th or 7th highest spenders in the league.'"


Championship SC is 1 million and it was also suggested that some of Fax's 'part timers' were on more than some of Leighs FT players. I just hope both clubs know what they are doing

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "If Leigh are up to the cap which I have seen suggested then I am lead to believe that it is close to £600K. Imo we have a very talented squad but a real lack of depth which we simply can not afford. In terms of spend I would estimate us been somewhere near the 6th or 7th highest spenders in the league.'"


So like me in reality you've no idea what either club is spending.

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Quote: glow "So like me in reality you've no idea what either club is spending.'"


Ive been told what Fax expect to be spending this year, but you are right regards Leigh, although I would expect them to be somewhere near the full cap.

Quote: glow "Championship SC is 1 million and it was also suggested that some of Fax's 'part timers' were on more than some of Leighs FT players. I just hope both clubs know what they are doing'"


Some of Fax's part time players will be on more than some of Leigh's full time players DUCY?

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Quote: FredParky "Suggested? as players wages are usually conducted in secret any suggestions are purely guesswork at best and fantasy at worst, by your working out Bradford should have beaten us but did they? NO, stop clutching at straws Halifax were beaten you will have your chance of revenge soon enough look forward to that instead of stupid arguments trying to justify your teams loss.
Look forward to your next game not back at your last, Im sure thats what Richard will be saying to your lads.'"


My guess work is usually better than most peoples. icon_lol.gif We were beaten by the better team something it seems I have pointed out quite a bit but is getting lost on some people.

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