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simpsons/PDT13.gif Brad Fitler "If the ref's decision decides your game. You haven't done enough prior."
Referees are like women, they make snap decisions and never reverse them.
[b]Littlerich wrote[/b] Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.:simpsons/PDT13.gif |
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| Quote: Great King Rat "I didn't know. As Capt Mainwaring would say "You stupid boy"!'"
Neither did I. But then again I am stuck out in the sticks
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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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Yed wrote: "He's like a Kevin Penny on steroids except he's good too"
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"What? What have I said now?" - Starbug 2013
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| Quote: Leyther Always "What a waste of talent, idiotic behaviour for a sportsman!
Showed incredible form earlier in the season!'"
Agreed. Plenty of talent but no sympathy whatsoever, doubt you'll be seen in a rugby shirt again with what's to come.
On the upside, he did well to not get busted until a far better player andbloke was fit in RHP.
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28343_1268949591.gif " Time is but a flowing stream".
Pedro. Higherfold Cockey Pond. 1973.
You can shout for silence, but boots worn all day will always hum.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_28343.gif |
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| At least thats a wage the club don't have to find for now. Have to be thankfull for small mercies. It's a real pity because we were a damn good team with him in it. Edited after second reading.
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'Hi-Ho Silver Lining'
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| Glad he's been caught and banned.
Glad he won't turn out for the team I support ever again.
Just a pity he lowered the clubs reputation with his low personal standards.
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| The Watcher believes cocaine useage is widespread in a certain age group of our young people, anyone who thinks that rugby players do not indulge in this drug need to take their head from up their bottom.The most irratating thing about the Govin situation is that if he had told the club the truth & then taken their advice he would not be in the mess he is now.
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| I am with the Watcher on this.
How anyone can think this particular drug improves players performance on a RL field astonishes me.
Oh yeh sportsmen have to set an example to youngsters and if no sports person took recreational drugs then no youngsters would ever take recreational substances. How can anyone seriously believe that ?
I am just surprised players can' if they wish drink a bucket of red wine a day and still not get banned but taking a different addictive drug they can get banned' because one addictive drug is illegal and the other is not.?
Do I think taking addictive drugs is wrong is not the point in my view when it comes to sport. When it does not improve player performance so what. Anyone who tries cocaine does so because they want to not because Govin took it.
I would legalise all such drugs at least our Chancellor could tax them and maybe there would be less crime. Would you take cocaine if it was legal ? What has that do do with me or the RFL ?
Opium used to be legal when Queen Victoria was on the throne. I think they call it heroin now.
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2032_1340307831.gif Please do not send me any PM's I dont check this board often enough to be able to answer them, use my e mail add please fjparkinson@virginmedia.com
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| quite right Frank it was and is )Heroin), as was cocaine and hemp weed (Cannabis)
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| Are you two giving us an insight to your misspent youths in the Victorian era?!?!?
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..... and I'll be standing in the Hilton Park stand, yes that's right I've named the North Stand myself: |
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| Well what a stupid thing to do just as he was getting his career back on track after years of injuries.
I was made up when we re-signed him and he was awesome before his "injury", such a shame because I'm sure he'd have got another contract next season particularly with Robbie retiring and Jamie off to Hull.
Very disappointed.
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28343_1268949591.gif " Time is but a flowing stream".
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| Sorry Frank I disagree with some of that. Younger people are influenced by the actions of people they look upto and if just one took drugs just because Mick their idol did it then it's one too many. Those are the people that need educating at an early age that both drink and drugs do them no good and a person in Micks position who is found to be doing it should have the book thrown at them. Not saying after he has paid his dues he shouldn't be let back in but for now he must pay the price. Its funny you should bring the victorian opium days up because they were allowed to happen to keep the lower classes stoned and quiet. It has happend in the gettos in the states and I think they let drug and drink misuse happen in the inner cities over here for the same reason. Doesn't seem to be working at the moment does it.
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| Stupid boy, i thought he'd knocked it on the head & realised what was at risk, some people only learn the hard way
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| Quote: TV BOY "Sorry Frank I disagree with some of that. Younger people are influenced by the actions of people they look upto and if just one took drugs just because Mick their idol did it then it's one too many. Those are the people that need educating at an early age that both drink and drugs do them no good and a person in Micks position who is found to be doing it should have the book thrown at them. Not saying after he has paid his dues he shouldn't be let back in but for now he must pay the price. Its funny you should bring the victorian opium days up because they were allowed to happen to keep the lower classes stoned and quiet. It has happend in the gettos in the states and I think they let drug and drink misuse happen in the inner cities over here for the same reason. Doesn't seem to be working at the moment does it.'"
Well it is an opinion like mine and you are entitled to it. When I was young I liked the Rolling Stones.We have fans on here who avidly followed the Beatles. Drug taking was rife in pop culture at that time ask your Mams and Dads.
I honestly think people take drugs because they are inquisitive. Some do some don't but it is nothing to do with pop stars or sports stars it is a choice thing.
George Best drank loads of white wine and eventually sadly it caused his premature death. He was much better known than Mick Govin but even though I am of that age group I prefer red. I do not for one minute believe people blindly foillow an individuals habits just because they admire an individual in a particular sport or a musical star.
I can't stand celery or aniseed but if Mick Jagger had extolled them 50 years ago it would not have made me want celery or aniseed.
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28343_1268949591.gif " Time is but a flowing stream".
Pedro. Higherfold Cockey Pond. 1973.
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| One last word before I go and curl up in bed. Drugs and Rock and Roll cultures sort of go hand in hand. Do you think that a simillar relationship between sport and drugs is healthy? Goodnight Franky baby.
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| There, but for the grace of God, go many of us....or our kids!!
However much anyone wants to take the moral high ground, the fact remains that addiction is an illness. We aren't talking about a 'drug cheat' here - the use of cocaine was never going to improve performance. We're talking about a young lad who, for whatever reason (and none of us really know - unless we have personal experience - how the mind of an addict works) could not control this urge.
As Frank points out, there are plenty of people who have a 'need' to get pished up every weekend.....and the tales of some of the best players ever to pull on a Leigh shirt, and their pre/post match drinking habits are the stuff of legend!! The only difference is the use of this drug is considered acceptable in the eyes of the law.
It would be a shame if this ended up being the ruination of another career. Govin, on form and injury free, is a quality player.....and no one can deny his contribution to the fantastic start we made to the season. I'd like to think that some way could be found to rehabilitate Mick - get him on a programme, then get him 'paying his dues' by going round the schools and youth organisations of the area, and educating the kids to not go down the same route. And who's to say that in a couple of years time, he couldn't find a role back within the game (he'd still only be 2icon_cool.gif? Gaz Hock has managed it, and (and you won't here this from me very often!) the 'umbles are to be congratulated on how that situation was handled.
I'm sure any of us with any compassion would sooner that, than another Terry Newton.
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| whats more suprising is how long he has been getting away with it
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