Buggered if I know?

But on several threads you or someone calls A T for not seeking help and not willing to take on help to fund it,so T Barton just thought ooh I'm on tv I'll not check anything I'll just spout a load of balony is what your saying?

Think we have found the King of the negative nellies here araise KING NELLIE

Fairly simple maths , by the time you deduct for concessions and kids , then take out the LSV s share , then VAT , you will be very lucky to see £ 8 per ' attendee ' , times that by 2500 gives you £ 20,000 per game , once again times that by 15 games gives £ 300 K per year , that pays for your playing squad , not including your nat Ins , you then have coaches wages , rent , community , phones countless other costs

The break even at Hilton Park was around 2,800 , but we had several other income streams no longer available to us , ie food drinks sales , stadium advertising , even merchandise sales

Plus quite simply the fact that I know roughly what our Chairman has been contributing each season , so to make that amount up requires 1,500 paying spectators at the maths I have just given you above

That's fine Jenky , if we want to reduce the Championship salary cap to a third of what it currently is

So according to your guess work we are £9,000 every other week[home game] down in the season hardly a unworkable sum of money?

Don't get me wrong, I think Leigh can get higher gates consistently but I think thats a fair way down the track with lots of work required off field to achieve it.
We have improved massively but we are still a long way off being the towns focal point.
Operating in the league we do is a huge turn off for many but I feel the club was slowly getting the right ideas in and was targetting the right areas, but it will still take a long time for us to average 3,000 in a league where 2,000 is deemed way above average as a spectator paying gate.
The work done with juniors by the club/RFL this year will have put some seeds down, we need lots more but for now that is something to be positive about once all these problems become resolved.

You amuse me and give me a reason to live, I thank you deeply

Then are the clubs being totally unrealistic ?
Last nights gate was a big one for Championship RL and yet would fall way short of some of the projections posted to break even.
I don't think any Championship clubs should be looking at gates that in the short term are incredibly unrealistic to achieve if they need double what they get just to survive.

dont know where you coming from maurice but trev couldnt even be bothered to go and talk to his staff when he was appointed so dont talk about trev communicating cos he does not know how his words were i didnt know i come here to talk to staff

Why are they unrealistic ?

If all you are doing to try to increase them is hope they will come , then quite simply they won't

If you are trying to get somebody to buy a new brand of wine in a supermarket , or maybe a new flavour of pizza , what do you do ?

You give them a free sample

How many people , mostly kids have never set foot inside the LSV to watch Leigh ?

Why do people go to watch live sport ? , or a concert that they can watch on video or TV for a fraction of the cost ? , why have they had to have a lottery for the tickets for the Olympics ? , when you will get a much better view on the TV for free ?

Our problem is the money we have to pay to the LSV for each match we play there.

We have a chance to grow our fanbase with this team and coach.

Be part of that. The Consortium can negotiate with the LSV and our players can stop worrying about if they will receive their next pay cheque.

Anyone who can afford make your pledge' join LISA or just make sure you attend our home games.

I've noticed one or two TB MBE grudge holders appearing now

They are unrealistic IMO as no club in this division has ever achieved a 4,000 average without Promotion and relegation.
I'd say that Widnes apart many clubs in our division really struggle to average 1,900 paying fans.
Yes plan for a projection of gates of 2,3 or 4,000 but don't finance for gates that are at the current moment in time and looking at previous averages very hard to achieve.

I agree with the rest of your post, they are all achievable aims, however mixing up aims and aspirations with 'must hit' targets is where you can end up in a mess unless you have a benefactor /backer or investors willing to make up the shortfall.

Just because something hasn't been done before or is hard to achieve , doesn't mean it can't be done , the actual real target is 12,000

It's how you go about achieving it , if all you do is try the same things that have failed in the past , you will fail , so you start with a blank piece of paper with what you want to achieve on it , then figure out a way to do it

What comes to mind is something in one TV show and also a film

I cannot remember which TV show it was but it was the last episode and the characters were discussing their future , " I have heard they are going to build a new type of road called a motorway , well I'm going to open a place where people can stop and go to the toilet and buy food on them " , " if they are on a big road like that , it'll never work ", the film was the Memphis Belle , one of the characters suggested he wanted to open a chain of restaurants all over America where the food would always be the same , " Why would anybody want the same food wherever they go ? "

The bottom line is we have a stadium that will fit 12,000 in it , so as long as there is an empty seat then there is still work to do

Well said.