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Quote: Starbug "Then they are lost , especially the ones who think Mick Higgins and other ' predessers ' are still taking money out of a turnstile at Hilton Park

I didn't realise that there was still a turnstile on Hilton Park, very informative these forums. icon_eek.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: advocatus diaboli "My original post was not meant to be negative or positive. It was meant to be honest. I tried to spell out the reasons I no longer watch Leigh and I know a lot of others feel the same way.
To those who say I am making excuses, I don't understand what you mean. Making excuses for what? I admit I don't watch Leigh any more and I gave my reasons. What can that possibly be an excuse for?
Anyone who knows me, knows how passionate I am about rugby (both codes as it happens) and Leigh. I am Leigh through and through and could never watch anyone else (except Leigh East of course, my son played for them from being 7 up to open age).
Can I be tempted back? Yes, of course. But things need to change first. Hopefully the new management team will effect these changes. I am merely showing them some of the challenge they have.'"



It is difficult to explain in words sometimes , sometimes things just dont ' feel ' right , and hopefully in time , things will feel right and you and others like myself will want to be stood on the terracing with those who still enjoy the experience , hopefully with a few thousand new fans as well

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



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' Honesty ' a very undervalued commodity thses days Keith , you dont always have to agree with someone , or even like them , but honesty should always command some respect

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I too think the original post is very valid and honest. The most important part of it being the bit that maybe it will provide some ''food for thought'' for the new BoM. We all know that some of them read this forum and if only 1 of the points is taken onboard and adressed by the BoM it may attract some lapsed fans back.

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Totally agree with the guy most of my gripes are what he states,like I said in previous posts

Stick a line in the sand and say from next year we will have no twinning or dual,season long loans no problem as that as happens for 100 year.

He is a bit of food for thought,how many customers does a retail shop have to attract to replace 1 loyal customer who as gone else were?????

Answer 18 now that very scary

Now with the look of things next season should be easy to get us back

Re introduction of promotion and relegation the coming year coupled with sensible season ticket prices/booklet and the ripping up of twining arrangement duals!

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Quote: advocatus diaboli "I know this is very early days for the new Board and there is much to do, but I would like to state the reasons why I have stopped watching Leigh. Hopefully this will give them some food for thought as I know a number of others who have stopped for the same reasons.
1. Last season I had a season ticket but ended up losing out as lots of our games ended up being played at different days and times. I can’t make weekday matches due to work commitments and ended up missing the Thursday and Friday night games.
2. This is something that really bugs a lot of people – Swinton have first choice over the LSV. They get to play Sunday afternoon and we get whatever is left.
3. Last season and the beginning of this season we have been playing the most boring one man up the middle rugby. The last times I went this season I ended up so bored I wasn’t watching the game half the time, I was turned round talking to the person next to me –WYSISYG as it happens, so you can see how bored I was.
4. The Dual Registration deals over the last few season have annoyed me, I’m not naïve enough to believe we can have a squad who were all born within the sound of Leigh Parish Church bells, but I want players playing who are signed by Leigh, not by Warrington etc. and called back on a match by match basis.
5. Leigh becoming Wigan’s reserve team this season has really done it for me. Sorry but I won’t be coming back until that is gone.
And before anyone accuses me of being a plastic Leyther, I have watched Leigh home and away for over 45 years. I went to Wembley and Whitehaven etc. etc.
The frightening thing is though, how easy it is to get out of the habit of going to matches.
It is much more difficult to get back into it.'"



Thank you for your honest and frank reasons as to why you no longer watch the club. This is the kind of feedback we need to know and we will take it on board rest assured.

We can't resolve everything overnight but rest assured your concerns and indeed everyone elses will be addressed ASAP. In the meantime if you wish to pm me I'd lke to offer you the chance to come to meet the team to see what we are about honest and genuine Leigh fans who want to make this a community fans club. I'd personally lke to demonstrate to you it's not empty words and we will listen and learn from constructive critism.

Regards

Andy Mazey

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SRW1996 "Thank you for your honest and frank reasons as to why you no longer watch the club. This is the kind of feedback we need to know and we will take it on board rest assured.

We can't resolve everything overnight but rest assured your concerns and indeed everyone elses and they will be addressed ASAP. In the meantime if you wish to pm me I'd lke to offer you the chance to come to meet the team to see what we are about honest and genuine Leigh fans who want to make this a community fans club. I'd personally lke to demonstrate to you it's not empty words and we will listen and learn from constructive critism.

Regards

Andy Mazey'"


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Quote: Starbug "Get back to the bar, last holiday you get
Holiday cut short mate.

Back in the thick of it no time for holidays or fun anymore icon_lol.gif

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Andy Mazey!! you have come a long way from getting stopped by the police for ragging your dads Astra sport down Twist Lane with 2 innocent tennagers in the back!!!! icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Binosh "Andy Mazey!! you have come a long way from getting stopped by the police for ragging your dads Astra sport down Twist Lane with 2 innocent tennagers in the back!!!! icon_eek.gif[/

Ha ha ha how you doing Neil?

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Back to the original post, there is NO way I could stop watching Leyth Centurions.
Since the RFL introduced licensing, I hardly ever go to away games (1 or 2 a season) BUT if Leigh are playing at home, I would only miss a home game 'if I was abroad'. Find it quite irritating when folk 'make a big deal' about why they don't go watching THEIR club anymore...just admit it "I can't be d/I'm skint"
My father in law sez "ave fell owt wiv em' OH SOD OFF !!!
If they were near top of SL, he'd be loving them again. d040.gif

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Some good points made that I'm sure the new BOM could use for factoring in how to get people back , whilst they can't change all of them the way people view the club and how it sets its its goals and ambitions can change and its that we could slowly start to see gains on.
I thought the OP made some valid points that I'm sure will be of value to the new team.

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Personally, I don't see why efforts should be aimed at getting people back, the targets should be new people to be attracted and kept. The fair weather ,lapsed fans would soon be lapsed again if things didn't come up to their expectations.

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I agree there, eventually they may come back but it's new blood we need, there's a missing generation of fans out there and we need to find a way of getting them through the turnstyles

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Quote: advocatus diaboli "I know this is very early days for the new Board and there is much to do, but I would like to state the reasons why I have stopped watching Leigh. Hopefully this will give them some food for thought as I know a number of others who have stopped for the same reasons.
1. Last season I had a season ticket but ended up losing out as lots of our games ended up being played at different days and times. I can’t make weekday matches due to work commitments and ended up missing the Thursday and Friday night games.
2. This is something that really bugs a lot of people – Swinton have first choice over the LSV. They get to play Sunday afternoon and we get whatever is left.
3. Last season and the beginning of this season we have been playing the most boring one man up the middle rugby. The last times I went this season I ended up so bored I wasn’t watching the game half the time, I was turned round talking to the person next to me –WYSISYG as it happens, so you can see how bored I was.
4. The Dual Registration deals over the last few season have annoyed me, I’m not naïve enough to believe we can have a squad who were all born within the sound of Leigh Parish Church bells, but I want players playing who are signed by Leigh, not by Warrington etc. and called back on a match by match basis.
5. Leigh becoming Wigan’s reserve team this season has really done it for me. Sorry but I won’t be coming back until that is gone.
And before anyone accuses me of being a plastic Leyther, I have watched Leigh home and away for over 45 years. I went to Wembley and Whitehaven etc. etc.
The frightening thing is though, how easy it is to get out of the habit of going to matches.
It is much more difficult to get back into it.'"


Some valid points and here is my opinion on how I view these reasons given for not going to games. I stress that this is how I would react and I totally accept that people have the right to have different views.
1. Many posters on here pushed strongly for different match days and times. It was tried, did not appear to be better, but at least it was tried. I get it that some season ticket holders lost out last year but it wouldn't stop me from still supporting my team this year. I understand not getting a season ticket but not going at all would not be my response.
2. Not sure if this is actually the case, but that perception is certainly out there as this post shows very clearly. A clarification by the BOM would certainly help answer this. If it is the case it is definitely not what should happen next season.
3. No longer the case. I know that for sure and I'm half way around the world so not a reason to no longer be going in my opinion.
4. I do not like the DR program full stop. I dearly wish we did not need to use DR's but we do not have the depth in numbers and quality to be fully DR free right now ( this season). I sense that this new BOM want what we all know is best for Leigh. A squad strong enough to not need DRs. Staying away does not help them achieve that.
5. I totally disagree with this point. The way we are doing this is no different to how we did it with Wire etc. To say we are Wigan's reserves is in my view a totally inaccurate statement that does nothing to help our club move forward which is what I hope we all want. I do agree that a "partnership" with Wigan was always going to be a hot spot and was not the best idea BUT I think it may have been our only option. Should we have taken the option. I would suggest not because it was always going to alienate fans we desperately need. I would however not let it stop me coming through the gates.

Heres what I think about staying away from games and how it damages what the poster wishes changed.
More fans = more money = a larger/higher quality squad = no need for DRs = no need for any kind of deal with anyone.

This BOM have stepped forward with money, time, effort and there business experience. They have pledged it for 3 years at least. They have shown the ultimate faith in our club. They cannot change things overnight but the more of us that take the leap of faith with them in any way we can, the sooner we will get what this poster wants.
To any stay aways I say,
please come back NOW and help our club forward. Staying away until it gets to where/how you want it all to be, simply delays or even prevents it getting there.

With the changes that are coming with the league structures we need to move forward as quickly and as strongly as we can. More fans now means more money to do it.
Have some faith and support our team.
We need both new and lapsed supporters in my view.

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