well lets face it the nomads lied through their collective back teeth as todays laugh confirms, the question begs to be asked why was the nomads 'licence' not put out to 'tender' surely handing it to a bunch of soccer fans who have admitted they need the RL TV money to bail out their floundering soccer club, can hardly be called 'A GOOD THING FOR RL'
I await tomorows little laugh for the day from Wrexham, Bridgend, Neath or even Red Hall.

Can you provide a link for "to a bunch of soccer fans who have admitted they need the RL TV money to bail out their floundering soccer club" - but I think this is just another anti Wales comment.
Regarding "lied through their collective back teeth" - did they really? Do you really know what happened ? Nope, just another anti Wales comment. One person effected the Welsh club, just like (as you know) if AT left us we would be struggling big time too.
What does the "Nomads" actually have to do with our club ? Nowt.

Quote The deal is very important for the future of Wrexham FC. The club cannot survive if only 1,800 fans are coming through the gates. Wrexham FC chief executive Paul Retout confirmed the move and says it can help secure the football club's future. Retout said: "The deal is very important for the future of Wrexham FC. The club cannot survive if only 1,800 fans are coming through the gates. "We needed to do something to diversify and to protect the Racecourse going forward." '" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 387114.stm

Quote The deal is very important for the future of Wrexham FC. The club cannot survive if only 1,800 fans are coming through the gates. Wrexham FC chief executive Paul Retout confirmed the move and says it can help secure the football club's future. Retout said: "The deal is very important for the future of Wrexham FC. The club cannot survive if only 1,800 fans are coming through the gates. "We needed to do something to diversify and to protect the Racecourse going forward." '" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 387114.stm

Nothing about RL TV money keeping the football club afloat I'm afraid. That bit was tagged on by Fred for the benefit of keeping the bad feeling going on this mb towards the Welsh.

""It would be fantastic to have 10,000 fans rocking the Racecourse just like the old days." - if they want to create this then good luck to them. To me they help each other.

Thats the one Steve

BAD BBC FOR TELLING THE TRUTH OVER THE NOMADS BAD BBC or is it another anti welsh comment





as for the alleged lying well clubs are supposed to check an overseas players visa. they said they did 'history' now refutes that, is that proof enough or shall we await the non forthcoming RFL enquiry? then again I suppose they could claim Mr Magoo checked them, Im sure a few would believe it.



Its a disaster an embarrasement and to try and justify it or even defend it is really beyond belief, as for AT yes I have said the same thing many times, but the difference being the RFL wouldnt help us like they have the nomads, and yes its nothing to do with our club but I bet that even if 50% of the money wasted in Wales was put into grass roots rugby it would provide for a generation of budding Rugby League future stars not a pay packet for a few (well a lot actually and Nobles comments today proves that) Australians. And no Im not anti-aussie just ANTI WASTE.
Plus as it is pointed out to me on many occasions this is a Rugby League forum and it is Rugby League related.

So what are the nomads bringing to the 'table' umpteen thousand fans who will spend money like no tomorow, or else a big cheque from SKY TV? I'll let others comment on that, iif you think that Crusaders have been a big success then so be it but I like many others live in the real world, and the opening comments in the article say it all.

And no im not anti Wales far from it my ancestors were Welsh, just anti waste especially of money that could be spent elsewhere for the good of the game. I bet Leigh East and Leigh Miners would like even 5% of the money thats been wasted over the years in S Wales, I know I would.

Well done Fred. Thats me in my place. Its the easiest thing in the world to be a negative, and not see anything positive. We could pick away at all heartland clubs, but whats the point - its the RFL's fault for misrunning these clubs. Blame Blame.
You also seem to insinuate that I defend the Welsh/RFL over the bundling of the VISA saga. Which I don't and would like a link to prove otherwise (:wink:).
Still waiting for the link about all that TV money going to football club that you posted.
TBH the bbc write up was quite fair and a good read. There is positives in them reports too.

Where have I said they have been a success ? Link please (:wink:). We don't know, but you simply say they won't be because after 1 season in the top flight in the middle of a massive economic crash they are struggling. Its going to be a long journey before we see the benefits similar to London. The real world is expansion has to work - think small be small that is the real world. The real world is recognising just how diificult it is for our sport and other sports, and many many businesses at the moment - real world.


At what point did our discussion move to me accusing you of being racist ?

The "Anti Welsh" comment is about RL. We was talking about the sport in Wales which you seemingly give no positives whatsoever. That makes you RL Anti Welsh - just to cover bases that I'm not accusing you of being racist

sorry clicked on wrong one

Not be the first time ive been accused of being a racist it came with the shiny buttons and daft hat



Sorry but if you really think that Wrexham FC are doing it for the good of RL then that would be a firast for any sport (except of course for the RFL who have lifted the profile of RU in wales over the last few months

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I had no trouble whatsoever when Cardiff blue dragons started up as they were built (and fell) on Welsh money, but WreCkem Crusaders have really pulled a big blanket of wool over peoples and the RFL's eyes they have lied to the border agency (obvious lies as explained) and lets face it even someone as uneducated as I could see holes that were as big as the millenium stadium in the business model they were putting forward, all built on a mans word who had already shafted the people of Bridgend (some residents words I spoke to when out there in 2007 not mine)and took his ball home when the Welsh RFU saw through him.
As for positives well there are none, the whole affair is tainted with the smell of mismanagement and a whiff of lies told officially and unofficially.
If you ever speak to Starbug he proposed a team in N wales a few years ago something I agreed with him over, done correctly something which this debacle hasn't been done (which even the most die hard welsh fan must agree).

As for blaming the recession come on even when they gave away tickets the gates they got were pitifull, its not even that the numbers grew year on year, they showed the people down there didn't want RL even less than our own townspeople dont.

Yes I am a sceptic but also a realist, it should have been N Wales then S Wales with perhaps a midlands club thrown in the mix, this has been and is still a running joke something that the Welsh RU is weeing itsself over in glee.

Split hairs as much as you want.

Wrexham FC needs Super League more than SL rugby needs Wrexham because when WFC realise its not the cash cow they hoped it would be it will all go wonky.