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Quote: WYSIWYG2 "£25 is ok when your working but as a concession for seniors it's a non-starter in this economic climate and ridiculous energy bills. I've watched them through thick and thin for decades so I'm not the problem, the concessions for seniors is the problem. If people can't afford it they can't afford it, it doesn't matter if you can pay by direct debit if you haven't got enough to pay the direct debit.

You can all stick your head in the sand but IMG want big clubs with 15000+ crowds. Franchises and mergers will be brought in just as licensing has and yes, at some point in the future the 2 codes will reunite. Both codes are struggling financially and it's the only way to get a National game.

Enjoy the ride because Leigh will have success over the next few years but by the time IMG have finished with their re-imagining only the select few will be in the top league and the smaller clubs won't be in it.'"


How much should a concession ticket be then in you’re opinion?

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Think I’m right in saying £24 this year as opposed to £17 last ?
Although a £7 increase , 17 last year does seem relatively cheap.
£20/21 May of been a bit fairer but as stated , everything world wide has gone up , so in turn I assume Leighs rent would have increased , extra stewards required not to mention all the extra value from players to entertainment.
Unfortunately some people can go some people can’t , it’s the way of the world . In years gone by I’ve not been in the position to go every game so I picked and chose which I could afford.

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Quote: WYSIWYG2 "Time will tell but DB has stated that the Leopards are a brand, which means they can play anywhere not just in their hometown. DB has eventually done wonders at Leigh but he is a businessman and if there are bigger crowd opportunities elsewhere that's where the Leopards will play some games. The city of Manchester is right on our doorstep so it wouldn't surprise me that, in the future, DB will try to expand the brand there after he has turned the Leopards into a successful brand. This was his whole point of rebranding the club. Centurions were synonymous with failure. Leopards will be synonymous with success. If Tescos can only pull 6000 customers in Leigh but can attract over 15000 customers in Manchester then it's obvious they will make more money in Manchester and Manchester will be their focus. It's the same with the Leopards as a business and DB is a very successful businessman. Sentiment doesn't come into business decisions. A successful international business is running the game now and IMG call the shots. If they advocate franchising and mergers, then that's what it will be. Whoever thought licensing would be accepted again yet the clubs voted overwhelmingly for licensing.

It isn't going to happen overnight but it will happen.'"


You change the brand to raise the profile of the club. Leigh don’t have a ground bought by Tescos, wire do.
You will never see a merger at Leigh. The club would die first.

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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



The opportunity for Leigh to 'grow' their brand will be the last game of the season v Wigan. Would be even better if we had still something to play for.

I would play it at Bolton. It would generate a great crowd and would tap into outer areas like Westhoughton, Horwich, Daisy Hill, Bents, Bongs and a huge Town like Bolton itself.

Wigan would bring double to Bolton for sure !

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Always great to get more fans in but we are doing better than some others given town size ie Hudds, Salford, Waky. With another year in SL [fingers crossed] gives us opportunity to reach further than just the Leigh boundary, marketing to towns adjacent would add 40k of potential fans base. Just 10% of these gives us around 10k+ per match. Think the challenge from IMG is growing fans bases if we start filling grounds in the heartlands this creates more interest for TV and attract new team start ups in other areas.

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Is there sufficient a stadium in Bolton? Walking down Hope Street, Leigh, on a clear day you'd think that you could reach out and grab that little stick atop Winter Hill. But that little stick is blummin' huge and, at Bongser's age, takes a good 30 seconds and more to circumnavigate.

Point? Horwich is a lot further away than Bolton.

Presume CowYed is from Westhoughton anyway. Bongser lives in Bent. The latent interest is there. But there are far too many Wiggin shirts around Atherton. Glory seekers (from the old Leigh vills) will stay reflected glory seekers until Leigh pick up some serious silverware again.

For Bongser, it should be best 17 for the C Cup tie next week.

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Quote: Bent&Bongser "Is there sufficient a stadium in Bolton? Walking down Hope Street, Leigh, on a clear day you'd think that you could reach out and grab that little stick atop Winter Hill. But that little stick is blummin' huge and, at Bongser's age, takes a good 30 seconds and more to circumnavigate.

Point? Horwich is a lot further away than Bolton.

Presume CowYed is from Westhoughton anyway. Bongser lives in Bent. The latent interest is there. But there are far too many Wiggin shirts around Atherton. Glory seekers (from the old Leigh vills) will stay reflected glory seekers until Leigh pick up some serious silverware again.

For Bongser, it should be best 17 for the C Cup tie next week.'"


I more than get your point Bongser but as an Exiled Leyther living in Warrington and being a Wanderers fan to boot, there are far more connections with both clubs than there are with Wigan.

Bolton is a huge Town, and although it may be a little further away, easy to get to and it doesnt stop 20k week in a week out watching an average football team play in Championship 1.

Point ? Nothing to lose, spread the brand, day out and no doubt far more than the 9100 in the previous fixture v the crustmunchers will attend !

Another great win last night, so happy days !

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Pies appointed full time development officer to bolton after world cup
they got bit over 20k at that fixture with all the promotion
dont know if pies do any of the fabled marketing around bolton if so what form it takes anyone know?bolton town centre resembles Beirut
we have posters round town and have been into schools i believe including bent and bongs?
think we should look to fill lsv. elvis on the pitch gives us lots more seats

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Quote: Lower Creaser "As I’ve said and others have said before , with the population of Leigh itself , being around 60k 1 in 10 isn’t a bad average.
After a few years of Super League Rugby and more interest in the surrounding areas like Astley /Tyldesley/Atherton/ Westhoughton the crowds will rise .
We didn’t get a massive average in 81/82 despite what people say about HP being packed every week , it simply wasn’t.
That’s when there was little to do on a Sunday , pubs closing at 3 etc.
Regards the pricing I agree more should be done for our OAPs and not price them out of going regularly.
Friday nights will always favour some and not others , corporate wise it’s a no brainier , rest between games again makes it viable.
If the top teams , Wigan Saints Wire Leeds all play Fridays then they must of weighed up all the options.
There was outcry when we didn’t have cash turnstiles on the day and had to purchase tickets but this is now the norm , as will Friday night Matches'"


Friday is a must for the big clubs as that is when they fill hospitality

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Quote: Lower Creaser "As I’ve said and others have said before , with the population of Leigh itself , being around 60k 1 in 10 isn’t a bad average.
After a few years of Super League Rugby and more interest in the surrounding areas like Astley /Tyldesley/Atherton/ Westhoughton the crowds will rise .
We didn’t get a massive average in 81/82 despite what people say about HP being packed every week , it simply wasn’t.
That’s when there was little to do on a Sunday , pubs closing at 3 etc.
Regards the pricing I agree more should be done for our OAPs and not price them out of going regularly.
Friday nights will always favour some and not others , corporate wise it’s a no brainier , rest between games again makes it viable.
If the top teams , Wigan Saints Wire Leeds all play Fridays then they must of weighed up all the options.
There was outcry when we didn’t have cash turnstiles on the day and had to purchase tickets but this is now the norm , as will Friday night Matches'"

Wikipedia states Leigh`s population is only 41,250.

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Makes the crowd % all the more better!
Hopefully Wire bring a good following next week and fill out the south stand.!

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This thing about IMG wanting the likes of Newcastle and London in SL...they can want all they like, but the amount of money needed to turn those teams into viable SL teams is gargantuan by RL standards.

Remember London have had a very wealthy man ploughing money into them for years and they are currently playing in front of crowds of about 300-400 in a horribly inaccessible soccer stadium and languishing in the bottom half of the Championship.

Newcastle have stripped right back, gone back to part time, slashed their budget and look prime candidates to be relegated back to League 1.

Even Toulouse seem relatively cash-strapped, they have played all year without a major jersey sponsor and have been unable/unwilling to make any major signings this year and are struggling accordingly (losing at Sheffield, Bradford, Swinton and Batley).

There's more to building a SL club than just locating it in a big city.

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Hello Horsey, is this the year that Fev make it to Super League? It would certainly be a good time for promotion.

Regarding attendances, a big issue appears to be travelling away support on Thursday and Friday nights (especially involving trips across the Pennines). Well supported Leeds only brought a handful of supporters on a Friday. Local derbies are going down a storm, so for me it is better to have teams located closer than further away. If further away then more games need to be televised.

Catalans home games appear far less on Sky than in previous years.

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