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Quote: Leyther14 "Is this a financial issue ie their contract championship money not SL money or is it that they don’t want the physical challenge of SL. Would think it wasn’t financial as assume DB adjusted contracts when we got the nod for SL. Would be good to get some general player updates on injuries etc.'"


I remember seeing footage of the moment the club got the announcement live that we was in Flowers was very happy at the announcement, if I recall

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Quote: Dick Jones "I remember seeing footage of the moment the club got the announcement live that we was in Flowers was very happy at the announcement, if I recall'"


This party's thoughts on Flower and his signing are well documented passim.

If (SOME) 'play'-ers don't want to play for the club or manager/ coach the hatchet usually falls on the last but, with vastly improved performances over the last couple of games it's clear that more DO want to play.

This is not the same scenario as that faced by Neil Jukes wherein his benighted predecessor was quite obviously still pulling the strings of some (though not all) of his old puppets (Beswick, Kaye etc - we won't speak of Ryan), but unless some seriously better process is put in place this time we will again end up with refusniks doing porridge on the market stall. That's pointless as it hardly promotes the club.

It is the right of every working man to withdraw his labour. Sadly, it seems that it is not the right of every employer to say, "Okay, turf off, divot!"

Surely there's a legal way to oust these lead-swingers and save some pennies for next season?

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Or could we get them to actually get involved with team they are supposed to be in. What exactly is the issue!

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Quote: Montyburns "Leigh with a extra forward win today you got Ben flower walking up and down side line refusing to play for the club all other players not playing sat in stand United and flower walking up and down spraying ball and pretending want be there collect wages if you don’t want be involved in the cause leave the club'"


Mr Beaumont gave him the contract for Championship. He will be well covered on additional to that contract..Leigh’s fault. Not Flowers contractually. From a professional point of view, just get shut.

I thought Mr Beaumont would have had him stitched up,but obviously not.

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This sounds ludicrous. Offload to a championship side or amend contract to cover SL. How can they hang around the other players if they won’t play with them. Needs sorting one way or another!

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Quote: atomic "Mr Beaumont gave him the contract for Championship. He will be well covered on additional to that contract..Leigh’s fault. Not Flowers contractually. From a professional point of view, just get shut.

I thought Mr Beaumont would have had him stitched up,but obviously not.'"

Is this just blind guesswork from Atomic or can he ‘justify’ his assertions - as he appears to expect others to do?

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Quote: PlayTheBall "Is this just blind guesswork from Atomic or can he ‘justify’ his assertions - as he appears to expect others to do?'"


He took a championship wage on to play in the Championship.. No doubt all received a SL contract with the same bases as Championship. Not hard to figure out.

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Quote: Montyburns "That is exactly what is happening degsy not happy and threatening to not pay his wages but if he keeps turning up for training and match days then he not breached his contract. Flowers excuse is that he signed for a championship side and not super league.

My opinion the bloke as signed a professional contract it should not matter what division you are in end of he not on his own a couple more players are saying the same. Morale of the story if you think your fighting a losing battle and playing for a lost cause just stand up and leave the club don’t need the negativity'"

Is one of these people (as I suspect) Blake Wallace ?

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Is one of these people (as I suspect) Blake Wallace ?'"


If it is Ste, he's lucky to get championship wages.

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Its a funny one this. Leigh arn't in the Championship, so therefore isn't Flowers contract null and void ? Who says that Leigh are even paying him, and he is just training to keep fit?

I would be surprised if any of the original players signing for Leigh based on the Championship havn't either resigned a counter contract or agreed to a supplement.

It works both ways this one, and at the end of the day, Leigh are paying him to play 80 mins Rugby, that's all.

If Leigh are paying him still, good on them. They are still doing their bit. Is Flower doing his?

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Quote: atomic "He took a championship wage on to play in the Championship.. No doubt all received a SL contract with the same bases as Championship. Not hard to figure out.'"

I shall therefore assume that what you have ‘figured out’ is all based on supposition and in truth you don’t know any facts related to the Ben Flower legal position or his relationship with the Club - just like the rest of us.

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Quote: PlayTheBall "I shall therefore assume that what you have ‘figured out’ is all based on supposition and in truth you don’t know any facts related to the Ben Flower legal position or his relationship with the Club - just like the rest of us.'"


Ask Monty! He posts all the links, supposition and back’s everything up. Why you having a pop at me?

If you can train then you can play.

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Quote: Montyburns "Leigh with a extra forward win today you got Ben flower walking up and down side line refusing to play for the club all other players not playing sat in stand United and flower walking up and down spraying ball and pretending want be there collect wages if you don’t want be involved in the cause leave the club'"


Reading your forum for interest. This one post seems to have generated most comments. What I cannot ascertain is anything to support the view. Just wondering!

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I can't imagine for one minute 'the club' (Derek Beaumont) are allowing ANY player to train but not play. It's a load of b******s. Ben Flower and any other players are just injured or not being selected.

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Quote: Kennedy "I can't imagine for one minute 'the club' (Derek Beaumont) are allowing ANY player to train but not play. It's a load of b******s. Ben Flower and any other players are just injured or not being selected.'"


Has he played a SL game? That’s not including friendlies!

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