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Quote: doc999 "I know someone had to fill the 12th spot, but gifting us a place in SL just destroys the competition , we have a good application yes I agree, probably the best , but this freezes out the other clubs and destroys incentive . We have all bitched and moaned about this kind of cronyism in the past so I am just being consistent. It's like we have been allowed into the old boys club to keep them happy for a while . We are slowly destroying the sport and the fan bases are contracting . IMO they should have done an on field play off between the applicants just to give it some credibility seeing as the season is b0llocked anyway . take this sort of stuff to its extremes with all this BS talk of equality and maybe they should just award of the SL title because we haven't won it before .'"

A little bit flawed as an idea to have an on field play off. There has been no training, no games, no Covid testing protocols a la Super League & nobody to pay for it's implementation !

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "A little bit flawed as an idea to have an on field play off. There has been no training, no games, no Covid testing protocols a la Super League & nobody to pay for it's implementation !'"


He has two posts in two years. Don’t bother amusing him.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "A little bit flawed as an idea to have an on field play off. There has been no training, no games, no Covid testing protocols a la Super League & nobody to pay for it's implementation !'"


You got there first, Ste. Will just point out in addition that Toronto's expulsion was announced on November 2nd, ie the day after an awful lot of contracts expired. The proposed play-offs might have seen a good few clubs unable to muster a matchday seventeen - of whatever fitness. Also, by the time all the preparations were made and all the C-19 boxes ticked, the 2021 might have been almost upon us with all the teams involved having been unable to plan or budget for the actual flight in which they would find themselves after said process.

Sorry, Doc, whilst your desire to shy away from inconsistency that you fear would be interpreted as hypocrisy is laudable, the fact is that a Super League team folded at a time when the whole sport (not to mention the rest of society) was facing the most exceptional set of circumstances since WW2. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

Why TWP were not kicked out following the previous meeting a month prior to November 2nd, at which point some (but just SOME) of the issues above could have been avoided, is now moot. Prevarication on the part of TWP's owner or of the eleven other SL chairmen, or was it the bl00dy lawyers as usual?

A premeditated and altogether more sinister plot should be left to the conspiracy theorists. a026.gif

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I see that we have just signed the lad, Keanan Brand from Warrington (on loan). Must confess that i had never heard of him. Not exactly the type of earth shattering announcement i was hoping for.
In contrast, I see that Geronimo has this week signed for Swinton, Now that's what i call a big name signing.

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Quote: Jack Gaskell "I see that we have just signed the lad, Keanan Brand from Warrington (on loan). Must confess that i had never heard of him. Not exactly the type of earth shattering announcement i was hoping for.
In contrast, I see that Geronimo has this week signed for Swinton, Now that's what i call a big name signing.'"


Excellent Jack. Summed up my thoughts exactly.

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Seen Keanan Brand play a few times for Warrington and looks to have a lot of potential but would have been more suited to a year in the championship. Think it is a numbers game as well as quality squad needs to be that bit bigger for SL as tougher comp with more injuries. Sure Derek and John will be doing all they can to bring the best players in we can but usual scenario have only a couple of months to make it happen when other teams have been planning and negotiating.

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Quote: Septimius Severus "Excellent Jack. Summed up my thoughts exactly.'"

W/ow you and Jack join within a day of each other.Must be due to our elevated SL status, that draws fans from other clubs!!!

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Quote: Jack Gaskell "I see that we have just signed the lad, Keanan Brand from Warrington (on loan). Must confess that i had never heard of him. Not exactly the type of earth shattering announcement i was hoping for.
In contrast, I see that Geronimo has this week signed for Swinton, Now that's what i call a big name signing.'"


So you would rather knock a player who you admit to knowing nothing about, and question our coach who rates him and had wanted him even prior to the SL announcement, and still did after.
Each to their own.
For me, welcome Keanan, I look forward to seeing you in a Leigh shirt. icon_biggrin.gif

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Hi Vancouver. I fear that something has been lost in transatlantic translation. You have clearly misunderstood what was, i thought, a quite clearly lighthearted comment to enable me to include what must be the greatest name currently doing the rounds in rugby league namely, Geronimo Doyle, who has this week signed for Swinton.
Let me clarify, that I too wish our new signing Keanan Brand all the very best success. After all, whilst he is with us he is our player and i am certainly not going to knock him.
However, I really shouldn't have to justify my comments on this forum to you or anyone else here but, for what it is worth, i stand by them.
Brand was very much a fringe player at Warrington. He was signed by them very much on the strength of his potential which our coach has clearly, by his own comments upon the signing, also appreciates. What is clear is that he has yet to really establish himself as a first team regular. His outings at Warrington have been limited which is why they were happy to see him go out on loan for the season.
In reality he is unlikely to be a starter for us. I am assuming that Thornley and Sa'u will be the first choice centres.
There is no criticism at all in my comments either written or implied of our beloved coach and chief Hobbit in whose judgment i am happy to trust.
The second thrust of my very short original comments go to the heart of the club's ambition. Once we got our place in Super league i was hoping that we had a few big name signings to announce - indeed they may still be coming - but this is not one of them. Brand appears to be a squad filler signing only.
I really hope that our current squad is good enough to survive next season and it might just be but, it is likely to be a struggle and I think i am being realistic in saying this. The chances of our survival next season will certainly be helped if the signings still to be announced are players better than those that we already have. Brand does not fall in to that category and that is all i was saying.
Having read with interest your comments over the years i am somewhat surprised by just how quick you have been to be critical of a new contributor to this forum and to be a bit prickly about what were clearly intended to be humorous comments. I hope that this helps to clarify things.
I look forward to our future exchanges but please do not think that just because i am new to this forum that i am any less a diehard Leigh supporter than your goodself.
All the best.

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WHOOAPHH! That's tha teauwd, Vanners! icon_smile.gif

Welcome to Keanan, Jack & Septimius, everyone has to make a debut sometime. The more the merrier. If only more of the old crowd would check back in. Tinsel not tumbleweed!

Ladies & Gents, please also give a great big, Leyth shout out for a keh's-yedder who joined in April 2017 and has just made his/her first post - typing with a dentally held straw? Only joshing, hare and the tortoise and all that, welcome to you too, sirrah/Sarah.

Jack, yup Geronimo is a notable signing for Swinton but you may have missed that they've also made Tommy Hawke a blood-brother icon_biggrin.gif

ALL SEASONAL BEST TO ALL LEYTHERS & ALL OTHER RL FANS

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Cheers B&B. I'll drink to those kind words.

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Hello Jack,
I will not quote your reply to save space but I have read it of course.
I have also reread your original post and still do not see a lighthearted bent to the first half that refers to “the lad”Keanan directly. Geronimo Doyle is indeed though a magnificent name.
I personally see Keanan as a strong squad addition who will get game time for sure as the SL season will give opportunities. I believe when that happens we may see a strong addition. A quick watch of his Widnes highlights show a big, strong running centre who goes through a gap with speed and has the hands to give out quality ball to his winger. As for “bigger name” signing announcements, I will give the club time to work on those as I am sure there is a lot of work being done on that front.
You also imply that my response was partly due to you being a new poster. I can assure you that that had zero impact on my post. I welcome new posters and trust that you are a true “diehard supporter” as you say. Patience and true support will be needed at times this season. You will see me always looking for the positive in our team performances and our players. Any criticism will always be constructive or not posted at all.
I look forward to reading your future posts and hope we have lots of positive things to talk about in the coming months.
Cheers and Up The Comics.

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Hi Vancouver. Cheers to you and i will have another drink, this time to your kind words.
'the lad' is a humble turn of phrase which gives away my vintage. Every bloke younger than me is 'a lad', and these days that is most people. It is not a term that is critical. It is just a turn of phrase for someone who is younger than me. That is all.
For my part i look forward to contributing to this forum, now and in the future. I will however tell it as i see it, even if that means the occasional criticism of a Leigh player or official. It does not mean that the club is not dear to my heart or that i am in someways 'disloyal' if i chose to express honest but genuinely held views. This forum is surely about expressing views, at least it has been in the past, and for my part i see no point in just writing supportive comments when something perhaps more critical needs, in my view, to be said.
Lastly, most of my comments, unlike this one, will be lighthearted. These forums should also be fun after all. So, that may result in a little teasing of otherwise favourite players and staff. Supporting Leigh can pretty tragic at times. There have been some seriously low times but it is all made a little easier with a little gallows humour.
For the moment the club is in a great place and optimism abounds. Next season we will stay up. I can feel it in my bones.
And, as i am prone to do, i will certainly drink to that.

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Quote: Jack Gaskell "Hi Vancouver. Cheers to you and i will have another drink, this time to your kind words.........

For the moment the club is in a great place and optimism abounds. Next season we will stay up. I can feel it in my bones.
And, as i am prone to do, i will certainly drink to that.'"


Well it’s beer o’clock here in Vancouver, so I will join you and look forward to a season of the underdog Leythers making em’ have it icon_cheers.gif

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