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Quote: Alan "Higson, Ridyard, Hock, Higham, Mortimer, Acton not available through injury/suspension.

Dawson, Vea, Green & Hopkins weren't considered for the Halifax game, for whatever reason.

Mortimer is probably the major reason that Reynolds wasn't selected for a spell. Reynolds had looked jaded (in my opinion) and appears to have come back well refreshed these past couple of weeks, although his goal kicking seems to have gone to pot, during his absence! For what it's worth, my take on that is that he is now stabbing at the ball, and not following through. Consequently he is now not getting any height on his goal kicks. I would rather hope that someone like Paul Cooke should be able to see that and help Ben to rectify it!'"

Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!

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Quote: Brian Wood "Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!'"


The straight bullet style worked for one of the finest kickers I have ever seen grace the game. Jimmy Legard. Mal Meninga is probably the last player in modern times to adopt the bullet way and he had a great record also.

Jimmy had an interesting take on that style. He once told me it allows you a small amount of error and still land a successful conversion as opposed to the modern 'round the corner' style where you had to hit the ball smack bang on a specific spot.

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Quote: Brian Wood "Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!'"



And the groundsman's reaction to that would be.....? icon_biggrin.gif

Those were the days - before the tee had been invented.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "The straight bullet style worked for one of the finest kickers I have ever seen grace the game. Jimmy Legard. Mal Meninga is probably the last player in modern times to adopt the bullet way and he had a great record also.

Jimmy had an interesting take on that style. He once told me it allows you a small amount of error and still land a successful conversion as opposed to the modern 'round the corner' style where you had to hit the ball smack bang on a specific spot.'"


Didn't Jimmy stand the ball straight up? Stuart Ferguson used to point it at the posts, and he was some kicker. I once witnessed, at the Grammar School, a competition, between Bev Risman and our sports master, Charles Hughes. Bev used to point the ball at the posts, and Charles, being a soccer man, kicked 'round the corner' - the first time I had ever seen that style. (it was the 60's!) From memory, both were equally successful.

Personally, every time I tried 'round the corner' I used to fall over! At one training session at Tyldesley, Brian Fallon tried everything to get me kicking with the ball stood straight up, but I was a stubborn beggar, and wasn't going to change my style. He reckoned my straight up kicks were successful, but I reckon he was only trying to encourage me, as I was kicking in the dark!

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Quote: Alan "Didn't Jimmy stand the ball straight up? Stuart Ferguson used to point it at the posts, and he was some kicker. I once witnessed, at the Grammar School, a competition, between Bev Risman and our sports master, Charles Hughes. Bev used to point the ball at the posts, and Charles, being a soccer man, kicked 'round the corner' - the first time I had ever seen that style. (it was the 60's!) From memory, both were equally successful.

Personally, every time I tried 'round the corner' I used to fall over! At one training session at Tyldesley, Brian Fallon tried everything to get me kicking with the ball stood straight up, but I was a stubborn beggar, and wasn't going to change my style. He reckoned my straight up kicks were successful, but I reckon he was only trying to encourage me, as I was kicking in the dark!'"


Jimmy did, with great success.

I always felt I had more power , round the corner , but more accuracy the other way and therefore round the corner was coached out of me.


Even way back then I was revolutionary when it came to rugby, way ahead of my time icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "Higson, Ridyard, Hock, Higham, Mortimer, Acton not available through injury/suspension.

Dawson, Vea, Green & Hopkins weren't considered for the Halifax game, for whatever reason.

Mortimer is probably the major reason that Reynolds wasn't selected for a spell. Reynolds had looked jaded (in my opinion) and appears to have come back well refreshed these past couple of weeks, although his goal kicking seems to have gone to pot, during his absence! For what it's worth, my take on that is that he is now stabbing at the ball, and not following through. Consequently he is now not getting any height on his goal kicks. I would rather hope that someone like Paul Cooke should be able to see that and help Ben to rectify it!'"


So, from a squad of 30 players we actually have Brown, Higham, Hock, Langi, Mortimer and Paterson injured. That's 20%, not even close to 50%. Suspensions (Acton), and retiree's (Weston) 6.7%. The rest (Foster, Green, Higson, Hampshire, Ridyard, Thompson) 20% Jukes has chosen to exclude. And that doesn't even include Hopkins reportedly not in Jukes' good books.

Confused dot com

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Quote: Centurino "So, from a squad of 30 players we actually have Brown, Higham, Hock, Langi, Mortimer and Paterson injured. That's 20%, not even close to 50%. Suspensions (Acton), and retiree's (Weston) 6.7%. The rest (Foster, Green, Higson, Hampshire, Ridyard, Thompson) 20% Jukes has chosen to exclude. And that doesn't even include Hopkins reportedly not in Jukes' good books.

Confused dot com'"


We had a squad of 30 players?

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Quote: LeythIg "We had a squad of 30 players?'"


https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/2017-squad/

Edit: That is a damn good squad and it appears the ROI has been abysmal. I recall a Widnes fan recently posted that Leigh had invested a lot more than Widnes had in their squad.
Quote: LeythIg "We had a squad of 30 players?'"


https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/2017-squad/

Edit: That is a damn good squad and it appears the ROI has been abysmal. I recall a Widnes fan recently posted that Leigh had invested a lot more than Widnes had in their squad.


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Quote: Centurino "https

Agree with that, we should be in a better position than we are given the investment. Don't think it was a top 8 squad by any stretch, but think top 10 was achievable, whereas we are going into the mpg more in hope than expectation.

Hopefully lessons will be learned whatever division we are in, and we have a management and coaching staff working well with each other and the players.

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Quote: LeythIg "Agree with that, we should be in a better position than we are given the investment. Don't think it was a top 8 squad by any stretch, but think top 10 was achievable, whereas we are going into the mpg more in hope than expectation.

Hopefully lessons will be learned whatever division we are in, and we have a management and coaching staff working well with each other and the players.'"


Don't know about all the staff working together degsy told jukes straight after game that it's rubbish to watch and not good enough but not that kindly if you know what I mean

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Well it is garbage to watch isn't it?! Is he meant to lie?

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Derek's spot on telling him that . We are crap to watch , i think the decision to stick with jukes has finally got to him & he's realised he's wrong . Derek looked a lonely man at half time on friday ... if we survive he knows what he needs to do

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Quote: LeythIg "Well it is garbage to watch isn't it?! Is he meant to lie?'"


I agree it's garbage to watch to predictable

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Quote: Genehunt "Derek's spot on telling him that . We are crap to watch , i think the decision to stick with jukes has finally got to him & he's realised he's wrong . Derek looked a lonely man at half time on friday ... if we survive he knows what he needs to do'"

Totally agree Gene, I remarked to my mate about Derek staring into space, at half time,he looked very perplexed.

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Quote: Centurino "So, from a squad of 30 players we actually have Brown, Higham, Hock, Langi, Mortimer and Paterson injured. That's 20%, not even close to 50%. Suspensions (Acton), and retiree's (Weston) 6.7%. The rest (Foster, Green, Higson, Hampshire, Ridyard, Thompson) 20% Jukes has chosen to exclude. And that doesn't even include Hopkins reportedly not in Jukes' good books.

Confused dot com'"


Well you twisted that comment to make yourself look a bit of a wally didn't you - read my comment again and have another go and see if you can the figures a bit more accurate

2/10 poor effort

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