Don't know why it was locked, but it's unlocked now and will be staying unlocked.

Pretty obvious why it was locked. It's cos the self-proclaimed official club spokesperson cannot resist having a swipe at people on the unofficial message board. Some of those people have worked pretty bloody hard over the years for the sake of the club and now get to suffer public haranguing from the clubs leadership every other time they make a post. Keep up Michael!

Personally, I thought it was wiser for AM to stay away from posting on here. But then he came back as part of what looked to be a pretty successful PR push. Unfortunately, some of the posts get pretty personal and petty in tone, especially of late.

All part of being a seven figure team I guess, this abject display of public professionalism. I do worry how long before egos tear the club to pieces. Having a swipe at rival clubs' finances....Lost crack programme editor... LISA leader next?...

I too have always had concerns about directors posting on message boards. Indeed, Andy would be the first to confirm that I voiced those concerns in 'Communications Team' meetings. However, he would also tell you that I admitted those postings were/are excellent PR, when they were factual, and killed several rumours stone dead.

For me, the problem comes when directors start expressing personal opinions. I know they are entitled to them, just like any other passionate fan. Those opinions may be wrong, they may be right, (who's to say?) but may be better left un-written. That's just a personal opinion, of course. (may be wrong, may be right - who's to say? )

It was a tongue in cheek post from Andy. I think there is a little sense of humor failure here!

Dave

Your comments are noted.

Thanks

Andy

It's a sad state of affairs when a tongue in check post gets this sort of reaction from a mod who has in the past posted more provocative post than this...without even a face.
The fact that this thread has been reopened again shows that the overall consensus is that Andy's post was not/is not offensive.


edit.......Maybe Andy should have 2 avatars ? 1 as a BOD and 1 just as a fan ?

Waterfields having sat and read back through your old posts what is very clear and sticks out like a sore thumb is that you quite bitter for some reason and are clearly against the Rowleys and Derek Beaumont and as a consequence Andy looks now to be guilty by association.

Knowing a few of the new board on a personal level as a sponsor of the club I know that none of them are paid a penny for what they do for the club and the many hours of professional time they inject would cost the club an absolute fortune if they had to pay for it. I also know Derek and Andy are two of the major cash investors from the group and two of the key figures who are pushing the club forward at a very fast pace and indeed have transformed it's fortunes in a short space of time.

From reading on here and speaking with people at the club it's evident Andy did not have any part in Alan giving up his role as programme editor and as the forum is UNOFFICIAL i fail to see why anyone including our clubs Directors if they so wish should not have the right to an opinion on other clubs and all things RL should they so wish to have one. For me it's great we have such open, honest and passionate people running the club and willing and able to participate and interact with fans.

Question for you is what is buying you the right it have a pop at a guy is throwing many tens of thousands of pounds at the club and is part of a group that has transformed our clubs fortunes??? Exactly what are you doing for the club??? Keyboard Warrior I suspect who has been sat waiting for an opening and wouldn't dare say anything to these lads faces.

I look forward to Andy's contributions to the forum because they are informative, passionate, from the heart and occasionally funny . It would be a sad day if he felt he had to pack in because of bruised egos.
There are simple rules for posting on forums like this one, if you don't agree with an opinion then argue it but don't abuse the poster. If you don't particularly like someone then ignore them. If you have nothing to add to a debate then butt out and leave it to those who do.

That is absolutely correct - Andy played no part in my decision to resign, and indeed has always been highly supportive of me, in my role as 'volunteer'.

As for directors throwing loads of their 'hard-earned' into the club, they have had, and always will have, my respect for doing that, for MY club. (and every other supporters' club) Of course, it could be argued that 'volunteers', are indirectly contributing big sums of cash as well, in saving the club a small fortune in employing staff to fill those roles. (it has amazed me, to discover just how much cash the likes of Leeds, Bradford or Wigan chuck at their programmes, for instance)

As for directors posting on here, my opinion was changed by Andy's excellent factual posts - but hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rumour. For me, the problem comes if they get involved in slanging matches, or start to abuse other people. That's just not on, be they directors, fans, or anyone else. Just an opinion, of course!

To milehigh. You’re right, I did once troll these boards but haven’t for many years now. I had a conversation with Allan R which made me realise the damage you could do with posts on a very public forum in a small community (no matter how tongue in cheek they were intended) so I quit it. In fact, I don’t think the stored posts go back that far as they were all wiped in 2009 so maybe it’s your own memory that serves you well. I could, of course, choose to post under a new name.

On this occasion, I’m not trolling. Just pointing out that the leaders of any organisation have a responsibility and that engaging in very public spats could be damaging in the long run and definitely won’t do any good. The advice stands for anyone, think several times before you post. I give that advice to people I work with and would give same advice to anyone. Andy knows who i am, who i work for etc.

Hubris rarely leads to sustainable success. And there seems to be some creeping in….

Dave

David thanks for the reply.

The specific post I refer to is not even twelve months old and I found it on just the second page back of your most recent posts as follows

I think the new guys seem to be firmly keeping a lid on some of the more boisterous old brigade nicely and achievement is measured by success and you gauge success on results. In all areas of the business weather it be on the pitch in the bars, out in the town and community or upstairs in the corporate areas or indeed increasing numbers on the terraces we are achieving.

Were would we be if these guys had not stepped up to the plate last year???

Best Wishes

Ste