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Quote: Starbug "So existing RL fans, not the 50 odd thousand in the town who arent RL fans?

Its a cracking deal, so why only ST holders? , you are giving a good deal to 1% of the population of the town,that isnt the majority, IMO'"

Remember two years ago when this forum was full of complaints that there was no benefit to buying a season ticket? Can't win.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "Remember two years ago when this forum was full of complaints that there was no benefit to buying a season ticket? Can't win.'"


The benifit of buying a ST is a financial saving over a season, that hasnt changed in decades

Once again people are taking their and my views personally, I'll leave it alone

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Season tickets are great they give the club much needed income, inthe months leading up to the start of the season, when there is no other income.
As I said sometimes a true fan cant commit to one through no fault of his/ her own that doesnt
make them less of a fan again IMHO .
I get a season ticket every year before anyone has a go.


To make the cut and get where we want to be we will need all types of "fans" am I right or wrong?

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All the season tickets holders will be going to these games anyway .

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Quote: Starbug "The benifit of buying a ST is a financial saving over a season, that hasnt changed in decades

Once again people are taking their and my views personally, I'll leave it alone'"

Times change and consumers expect more Steve, for example here is what some clubs with high number of ST sales offer which I have quickly lifted from their websites-

Warrington
-10% discount in club shop
-Priority booking for Play-off and Challenge Cup Tickets
-Free entrance to all home Academy league fixtures
-Kid for or a fiver/Friend for a tenner ticket deal
-Various offers with club partners/sponsors

Wigan
-Store discounts
-WWRLTV subscription
-Priority purchase
-Travel discount

Hull FC
-Receive exclusive discounts and offers with ClubHull at leading retailers and food outlets across the region, with new additions including Frankie and Benny’s, Burger King
-Gain FREE entry to all pass holders events and get your chance to meet the first team squad throughout 2014
-Pass Holders bar et al.

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Even though p&r will probably return in some form....nothing official yet is there?

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Last post on the subject to you GO

Leigh dont have a high nmber of ST holders, Leigh dont have a high number of fans

None of those highlighted benifits are futher discounted tickets to 1 st team games

Many people ( not current Leigh fans ) have just seen an essentially full LSV at the WC game, there are a couple of opportunities to replicate that atmosphere at these friendley games, the offers are very good, but I just cannot understand why you would deny 99% of your potential fan base the best financial deal to sample it again

Now if that makes me negative, or a chip on shoulder, or a glass half full person? , fair enough, no agenda's, no point scoring, just plain common sense

I hope to make 1 of them, not sure which one yet ,if they let me in, that is icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Last post on the subject to you GO

Leigh dont have a high nmber of ST holders, Leigh dont have a high number of fans

None of those highlighted benifits are futher discounted tickets to 1 st team games

Many people ( not current Leigh fans ) have just seen an essentially full LSV at the WC game, there are a couple of opportunities to replicate that atmosphere at these friendley games, the offers are very good, but I just cannot understand why you would deny 99% of your potential fan base the best financial deal to sample it again

Now if that makes me negative, or a chip on shoulder, or a glass half full person? , fair enough, no agenda's, no point scoring, just plain common sense

I hope to make 1 of them, not sure which one yet ,if they let me in, that is Leeds offer "Discounts on Non Super League Games where applicable" and I am sure we will both agree that they are certainly the club leading the way from a commercial point of view. I can understand your argument but equally I can see why Leigh have decided to go down this route, it is all about converting prospects.

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I am firmly in the Starbug camp on this one; GO, how are you converting prospects with this offer ST holders are hardly prospects. Four friendly games in a short space of time but no incentive for a prospective fan to have a cheap peek but ST holders get a loyalty bonus. Very poor.

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Quote: reffy "I am firmly in the Starbug camp on this one; GO, how are you converting prospects with this offer ST holders are hardly prospects. Four friendly games in a short space of time but no incentive for a prospective fan to have a cheap peek but ST holders get a loyalty bonus. Very poor.'"

Prospects being those who are unsure on whether or not to bother with a ST this year. Happy to be proven wrong and like I say I can understand Steve's argument.

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Lets take my case as an example then - I am currently debating whether to get a ST for next year as I know I will miss at least 3 and possibly up to 5 home games. Having just seen the offer for the friendlies, where I can attend all of them, this has just swung it back in favour of me getting a ST for next year.

So once I get paid this month I will be getting a ST and taking advantage of the ST deal for friendlies.
Without that 'incentive' of the deal for ST holders I would, more than likely, have kept my money and bought tickets to individual games - which could be influenced by the weather/illness/hangovers

With the tickets in my pockets through this deal I'll be going to every game that I can and the club has my money

In my case it's a great deal and has secured my financial commitment for 2014.

NB - before anyone else says it - Not all cases will be identical

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Quote: leytherdownunder "Lets take my case as an example then - I am currently debating whether to get a ST for next year as I know I will miss at least 3 and possibly up to 5 home games. Having just seen the offer for the friendlies, where I can attend all of them, this has just swung it back in favour of me getting a ST for next year.

So once I get paid this month I will be getting a ST and taking advantage of the ST deal for friendlies.
Without that 'incentive' of the deal for ST holders I would, more than likely, have kept my money and bought tickets to individual games - which could be influenced by the weather/illness/hangovers

With the tickets in my pockets through this deal I'll be going to every game that I can and the club has my money

In my case it's a great deal and has secured my financial commitment for 2014.

NB - before anyone else says it - Not all cases will be identical'"

That is the kind of thing I was thinking about. Last year when I was at uni a similar offer at Warrington would have led me to buy a ST at the start of the year rather than wait until May as I did for three years.

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Prices are on the Official website.

Re giving discounts to ST holders most of us go to games anways if we can.

There are obviously pros and cons but quite honestly imo wether folk come to games or not that will be down to how our players perform on the pitch.

P & R definately is back and I honestly think with the squad we have assembled we WILL be a team to fear this coming season.

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Exactly the right decision by the club (in my view!) - it's all about choices. Buy a season ticket and get the perks - or don't. I think people understand that absolutely anything on a pay-as-you-go basis, be it a phone, a magazine or a match ticket will be more expensive than on a subscription, contract or season ticket basis. What you are paying for is the flexibility and the cash flow advantage of spreading out the payments. If it were not so, what would be the point of not doing pay-as-you-go?

A classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't and people like Starbug will always take the opposite view of what you decide to do, in part because they are just being awkward, as far as I can tell. And these people have to look hard to find something to moan about because what this board is doing is, in the main, some very fine work. Chips? Bags of potatoes more like it.

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Quote: Starbug "Last post on the subject to you GO

Leigh dont have a high nmber of ST holders, Leigh dont have a high number of fans

None of those highlighted benifits are futher discounted tickets to 1 st team games

Many people ( not current Leigh fans ) have just seen an essentially full LSV at the WC game, there are a couple of opportunities to replicate that atmosphere at these friendley games, the offers are very good, but I just cannot understand why you would deny 99% of your potential fan base the best financial deal to sample it again

Now if that makes me negative, or a chip on shoulder, or a glass half full person? , fair enough, no agenda's, no point scoring, just plain common sense

I hope to make 1 of them, not sure which one yet ,if they let me in, that is

Steve

We will have a higher number of season ticket holders for 2014 than in recent years and we want to reward these people for showing faith and a commitment to us surely you understand that.

Let's not be foolish enough to overlook two key facts here:

LSV was essentially full for WC game as it was a small part of a large event and part of a loss leader exercise in my opinion. Thousands of tickets were given away/ sold at next to nothing in order to fill the stadium and make out that international RL is alive and kicking. Yes it was great but fact is data collection will identify many of those who came were not even from the Wigan Borough and probably only came as it was free/cheap and was a one off chance to catch a once in a lifetime game in this town.

Leigh Centurions is a business and while we wish to significantly expand our supporter base and more to the point will do so! We can't afford cart blanch to fill the stadium (that's presuming we could anyway) with people who will only come because it's free and probably never come again once it's back at full price as well as pay all the associated costs that a full stadium brings it simply is not viable. These games represent a chance to show our squad we've invested in off and bring in valuble revenue which is needed to fund the club.

I'm surprised having sat in the Board Room and knowing how tight closed and pre season cash flow is we are even having this conversation.

At the end of the day for me It's about delivering a product worth paying for not giving away or devaluing our product and giving away much needed revenue.

We have to build gradually and will look at event days and games were we can run with some of the ideas you believe in but Leigh Centurions first and foremost is a business and needs to at least break even and if possible return a profit if it is to succeed. It has to wash its own face and short term needs to bring in cash to cover costs simple as that really like it or not, agree or not it's as clear as day and a matter of fact mate.

Our crowds will increase greatly this coming season and ST sales will be higher than last year, Rome wasn't built in a day be realistic and give the us a chance.

PS I'm always glad to see you and your always welcome pal.

Andy

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