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I suppose some questions unanswered would be...

1) Why did our CEO change his opinion of this partnersip with Wigan after stating it wouldn't happen.

2) What happens to any Leigh players further down the pecking order player wise that loses a spot (temporarily) to a Wigan player , if we bring 5 in (which I'd imagine will happen at some point) how does this sit with the clubs new stance on looking after borough developed players - especially if the Wigan players are originally from out of the borough.

3) Have we said we will have a maximum figure of DR's from Wigan : ie if the RFL raise it to 7 or 8 next year (mindful its risen every year since it started and so many SL and Championship clubs have seemingly embraced the idea) would Leigh run with that as we have been keen on using DR since it commenced.

4 ) With this news in the pipeline and with Paul quite keen on a arrangement with Wigan (mindful of his piece in the papers pre season in which he mentioned how Leigh fans would be 'excited' about the quality of players Wigan would lend us )did this influence the boards willingness to put Paul on a new contract before a ball was kicked this season (a unusual one for a RL club to do) and was this why Richie left the club suddenly.

5) With our new found interest in developing the Boroughs youth is there a plan to get the boroughs populace aware of Leigh Centurions existance and if so are Wigan helping us do this as to some it would be viewed as a clear conflict of interest to both parties.

6) What input would any Wigan Warriors employee have on the day to day operations of Leigh Centurions , on or off field.

7 ) Wigan (and Mr Wane) have a history of not linking with Leigh (inparticular during Ian Millwards tenure), is the agreement breakable at any point (as per Mr Wanes stance on G Hock at Widnes for certain fixtures) or is it a legally binding document that neither party can break without the others agreement.

8 ) Does the CEO / Board and head coach feel this will enhance the 'I beLEIGHve' campaign or do they now feel by having to go into a partnership with a SL that this has probably signalled the end of that campaign.

9) With rumours of SL going to 2 leagues of 10 and some SL owners publicly speaking about that as a preference has Leigh had word from the RFL that it was unlikely we would be in that group of 20 so is this a reason why we have entered a partnership with Wigan some way into the season when other twinned clubs linked up much earlier (including Wigan with South Wales).

10 ) Was Leigh / Wigan the first choice for a partnership for both clubs or did both have other preferences that fell through.

11 ) I presume the board are fully aware that Fridays actions will outrage and disgust a lot of current Leigh fans as much as it may please or unfaze others, has it taken steps to ensure the club doesn't hit more financial trouble and has another potential shortfall following its actions, is there plans to entice Wigan fans to the LSV to watch some of there players play for Leigh for example or other means should a crowd drop occur.

12 ) If this partnership collapses is there a Plan B for Leigh Centurions and if so what is it.

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I hardly think Wigan woud want to help you develop a team capable of geting into Super League this is not what they want you couldn`t have their own feeder club in Super League alongside them it would defeat their object.'"


I refer you to a previous post on another (more lengthy! icon_wink.gif ) topic. If you were to ask Wigan whether they want Leigh in SL, you would probably be surprised by their answer.

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Quite simply with 2 off field employees we have NO chance of SL

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Having read the feedback on the forum since I posted I don't think I will bother approaching the BoD re a forum as it seems that people have taken firm positions and debate would not improve hints but may inflame them.

It has certainly reminded me why I've never got involved with the official side of things though!

Ps - as I have lived in Appley Bridge for 28 years I obviously would not be welcome by some posters on here as living within the wards of Leigh is a necessity for knowing the right thing to do for the club!

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Quote: Alan "I refer you to a previous post on another (more lengthy!
If you refer to your post re` Kris Ladrinsky ,well that surprises me as I didn`t know Kris was invited to the RFL away days where the Club Reps decide between themselves which way they are going to vote over issues such as Twinning etc .

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Quote: Alan "I refer you to a previous post on another (more lengthy!
People tell lies Alan , all the time

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Quote: Toadstool "Having read the feedback on the forum since I posted I don't think I will bother approaching the BoD re a forum as it seems that people have taken firm positions and debate would not improve hints but may inflame them.
'"


In fairness it was a fair idea put across by someone who obviously cares about the club but I suspect emotions would run exceptionally high.
I think this announcement has actually managed to divide our remaining support base (and I'm not just talking about views from the internet forums) which as you alluded to can be exceptionally damaging to the club and its future.
Maybe things will calm down over time but with everything else going on in the game which is annoying people I suspect the timing of this couldn't have been any worse if indeed there is ever a right time for Leigh to announce its partnering with Wigan.

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The trouble is that many similar questions have been asked at recent fans forums and the answers appear to have changed significantly since then.

Something of a middle ground may be a clear, concise statement from the club (or both?), detailing in plain English EXACTLY the aims, benefits and long term plans of the partnership.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Leyther_Matt "The trouble is that many similar questions have been asked at recent fans forums and the answers appear to have changed significantly since then.

Something of a middle ground may be a clear, concise statement from the club (or both?), detailing in plain English EXACTLY the aims, benefits and long term plans of the partnership.[/quote]

As I have just posted on the other thread Matt , too many words just reakes of a cover up of something else , unfortunatly Keith being a solicitor will always use a couple of thousand words were a couple of dozen would suffice , it probably comes with the job as a way of justifying their charges icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "


Why say anything?

Had nothing been announced we already had Wigan lads coming and going who realistically would have either known or even been bothered???

It is an own goal to announce it full stop in my option but it's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't I suppose in defense of the club.

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Quote: Toadstool "Having read the feedback on the forum since I posted I don't think I will bother approaching the BoD re a forum as it seems that people have taken firm positions and debate would not improve hints but may inflame them.

It has certainly reminded me why I've never got involved with the official side of things though!

Ps - as I have lived in Appley Bridge for 28 years I obviously would not be welcome by some posters on here as living within the wards of Leigh is a necessity for knowing the right thing to do for the club!'"

Toady , please do not take this stance , everyone is entitled to an opinion , wherever they are from , your ideas and views are always most welcome .

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: concerned leyther "

I dont believe all the ' player pathway ' bollox , there has to be some financial benifit to Leigh Centurions , hopefully enough to offset the loss this will incur in defranchising an already disoloutioned fan base , if there isn't then I cannot for the life of me understand why this decision would have been taken , so if it was for the ' Money ' , then SAY so , dont treat people like idiots , it is the quickest way for them to lose faith in you

As I have put earlier , the current administration doesn't understand the ' Phsyche ' of the average sports fan , too much time spent in ' high profile ' meetings and careers in organisations with multitudes of ' minnions ' to do their biddings

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Quote: Starbug "

This is why in my opinion it needs linking to back with the fans and needs to be owned by the fans in some way shape or form in the future.

From what I see LISA is one of the clubs biggest assets and this in the main is because of passionate people getting off there back sides to raise money all for the love of the club.

I've had some minor recent involvement in the new FC Utd of manchester project and much of the funding to build a community stadium has been provided by sale of shares. Granted as a spin off of MUfC they haven't struggled to find supporters or seek publicity but the principle is there none the less.

I really think this is an avenue that needs serious consideration and would go as far as to say I'd support any movement to at least open negotiations.

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Quote: Starbug "People tell lies Alan , all the time'"


If you are so convinced about that, I find it a sad attitude. How about you, do you always tell the truth? icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Alan "If you are so convinced about that, I find it a sad attitude. How about you, do you always tell the truth?
No, I dont, but I get more told to me, than I tell, and if I got told less, then the less I would have to tell

Its irrespective of what Wigans opinion of our SL potential is, but partnerships,special relationships , influential friends and brown nosing wont get us into or make us viable for SL

You cannot ' Social climb ' or bull**** your way in, because if you do, when you get there it will all fall apart

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