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The Independant wrote: We might as well drop this pretence that visiting teams are touring Britain and accept it for what it is – touring Leigh.:fonds transparents/Wheezy.gif



Why don't you ask the club Lynda? Thought you was an elected member on board. Its bad enough having a poor result on the pitch without L.I.S.A representative having a swipe at the club not good publicity. I am a member and honestly could not give monkeys who gets photo in paper as long as the club get the money!
As far as TD club is concerned well done in involving members on your publicity as members are important and appreciation goes far. I am getting disillusioned about niggling conflicts between groups that have the same objective.

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At lot of people in the Northstand were not happy with the half time presentation simply because they felt Trevor B gave more recognition to the TDC. Can't blame them can you when you compare what LISA has done over the years espicially more so this month.

Last night was not a good for us on two fronts. The team were well beaten, not surprising with what is happening so soon into a new season, its bound to have an effect on PR and all the lads.

Switching the game to a friday night backfired on us completely. The club lost MONEY again and unless something is done soon before its too late the club will face the inevitable.

Dont want too sound all doom and gloom but face the facts LISA, TDC and fans keep pumping money in is not going to solve the problem.

The club will continue running at a loss and poor results on the field will compound that even more with poor attendances. We are in danger of heading down a spiral that if not managed properly will be speed up the problem.

We all cant say its going to be Jam tomorrow or when the weather gets better its not. The club needs to restructure itself and its debt as a matter of urgency as last night with a top of the table clash proves, we made another whooping loss on the gate.

The cost base and debt versus the income is miles apart and until something is done about that the club will contine to swing from crisis to crisis of that there is no doubt.

I know people will comment on this and pull it apart but as a fan base and a club we need a strategy, new ideas, inititive, clear management direction and greater control over the clubs debt and finances instead of us bumbling along in a world we cant afford to live in.

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I think most contributors to LISA will be appalled at the outburst of spite/jealousy, they contribute of necessity rather than for kudos.

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Although what ever money is raised by whoever doesn't bother me I can see both sides to this matter. I think your comment Reffy is out of order and the fact that there is a bit of tension between the two factions is a bad thing. The club should have thought about this a bit better. Public recognition for your hard word is worth bundles in boosting peoples morales. Linda may have been a bit silly but I don't blame her for feeling a bit hurt with all the graft she and the rest of LISA do for this club. If there are any rivalries or any bad feelings between the fund raising engines then the club should be falling over themselves to make sure it is sorted. "Petty jealousy" does not come into it at all.

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Quote: TV BOY "there is a bit of tension between the two factions is a bad thing..'"


.............. and this thread is going to help isn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Well debate and conversation is the only way to.

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Capitalise the loans to shares and open them up to fans- simples

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1500 people get told about a contribution what's wrong with that? Is the TD club going to air there laundry in public because L.I.S.A get on the website with there contribution mid week that by the way more than 1500 people can access? I would not think they are bothered!
I appreciate the work Lynda and others have done but these seems to be personal unless there as been a member vote or something?
I am getting dis illusioned with the sport as it is and frankly this aint helping matters.
This is only my opinion and I am sorry if its taken the wrong way but is the OP wearing a Lisa hat, a board hat, a mod hat or a Lisa members hat. One will eventually out rule the other!

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Quote: TV BOY "Well debate and conversation is the only way to.'"



I agree, round a table not on a forum.

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Anywhere is fine Reffy as long as nasty remarks aren't made, which Lynda did not make in any of her posts.

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Not forgetting that opinion is allowed and even welcomed on most forums. There was no need for this thread at all whatever the reasoning behind it.
You can now have the last word on the subject.

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Quote: Alexs Dad "Well speak to the club about it Lynda.

You're Lisa Chairwoman but by moaning on here are inadvertently creating a rift on a public forum.

I find that hard to understand to be truthful. '"



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Quote: maurice "Capitalise the loans to shares and open them up to fans- simples'"


I wish I had a £1 every time you mentioned that statement on this forum!
Would it actually make any difference if this happened. The current shareholders would still have control which would stop anyone taking over unless they sold their shares. The capitalisation of the loans would give them more shares so if the fans bought some shares they would have no say. The current shareholders would still peobably own over 90% of the company. If someone wanted to take over they would still have exactly the same issue as they have now regarding take over price ( if it is an issue - my view is that no one is interested in owning the club)

However, if someone was serious about taking over I'm sure the current shareholders would sell their shares. Capitalisation of loans to share would make no difference as the amount the shareholders have invested and may want returned should a take over happen.

The shares could still be opened to fans without capitalisation.

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