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Everyone would like to see a free flowing game, but not to at the extreme of tries being allowed for blatant forward passes. Leeds scored at least 3 tries off forward passes.I would rather the game was played to the rules otherwise we might as well play American Football. And I do wish Sinfield would stop going to the ref for every decision, it's pathetic. 48 - 24 would have been a better reflection of the game.

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Well I think that these rules and the flat pass rules are leading to inconsistencies in officiating and are doing nothing for our game. It makes it easier for an official who is prejudiced against a team or town to hide behind his or her decisions. It also helps the governing body to defend an official who makes bad decisions because the are too many ambiguities in there. Is this wrestling tripe just getting us ready for us joing the RU leagues because I personally hate it. When a player has stopped making forward progress and it is clear that that he is tackled then the tackle is complete. Some officials are waiting and waiting and waiting somemore to give the attacking team more time to get the ball out. It is open to abuse and a clear and strict rule is needed. It does no good to my blood preasure and voice box when I'm on the terrace.

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Quote: WYSIWYG "Everyone would like to see a free flowing game, but not to at the extreme of tries being allowed for blatant forward passes. Leeds scored at least 3 tries off forward passes.I would rather the game was played to the rules otherwise we might as well play American Football. And I do wish Sinfield would stop going to the ref for every decision, it's pathetic. 48 - 24 would have been a better reflection of the game.'"


A captain of a team needs to have the official explain his decisions for the reasons I have just posted. I would expect our captain to do exactly the same. I have watched KS at close quarters asking the ref questions and he does it in a very profesional manner. Don't forget he is hyper and in a very tough enviroment when he is on the field. Never ever seen him use bad language either. Wish we had him.

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Quote: TV BOY " It makes it easier for an official who is prejudiced against a team or town to hide behind his or her decisions. '"


Awesome comment, the best I have read for a while. I suppose what you really mean is that every Ref & TJ l is biased against Leigh; I think paranoia just about covers it. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: reffy "Awesome comment, the best I have read for a while. I suppose what you really mean is that every Ref & TJ l is biased against Leigh; I think paranoia just about covers it.
Well Reffy i really hope you don't make the first grade as you have totally misread my post and if you do that you obviously will do the same with the rule book. Where in any of my posts did I even intimate that I thought that any ref had a problem with Leigh. I merely said it could happen to any club or town.

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I haven't misread your post at all, you are of the opinion that referees are biased against particular teams. It is a concept that I find laughable. I was just fine tuning your idea because surely Leigh fall into the category of "any club or town".

You are obviously not alone in your belief that refs give Leigh nowt but I have to admit that you are less vitriolic than some.

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Quote: TV BOY "Well I think that these rules and the flat pass rules are leading to inconsistencies in officiating and are doing nothing for our game. It makes it easier for an official who is prejudiced against a team or town to hide behind his or her decisions. It also helps the governing body to defend an official who makes bad decisions because the are too many ambiguities in there. Is this wrestling tripe just getting us ready for us joing the RU leagues because I personally hate it. When a player has stopped making forward progress and it is clear that that he is tackled then the tackle is complete. Some officials are waiting and waiting and waiting somemore to give the attacking team more time to get the ball out. It is open to abuse and a clear and strict rule is needed. It does no good to my blood preasure and voice box when I'm on the terrace.'"


What an earth is a 'flat pass rule'? icon_lol.gif

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Forward Pass. Its allowed in SL.

Leeds are masters of it. Sinfields first try was a mile forward. Problem was that the ref was right at the side of him !!! LOL!!!

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The guys did us proud on Friday just a shame that the scoreline didn't more closely reflect the match we watched!!

A couple of the Leeds tries were definitely questionable from where I was stood in the North stand - clear forward pass. As for our disallowed try on half time couldn't call it myself from the North stand but the players reaction spoke volumes about what they thought and my sister got a txt straight away from a Leeds fan in the south stand who said it was a definite try.

Also can somebody shed some light on our second try that was disallowed - we were penalised for retaliation but my understanding from the people around me was the Bailey threw the first punch so the penalty should the penalty not gone our way? This is similar to an incident that went against us last season and resulted in the opposition getting 8 points!! as went against us last year !! the try stands, followed by conversion followed by the penalty goal!!

This would have resulted in a 26-48 scoreline which I feel is a truer reflection of the match and the performance the lads gave!!!

Well done to the team and the fans left the ground on a high thanx to all icon_smile.gif

PS hubby has just come up with a good question - why in football can a linesman spot a player offside from a 40 yard pass but in rugby a linesman can not spot a forward pass straight in front of him???? I do question why they are there - maybe I should take it up seems like easy money to me!!!

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Also can somebody shed some light on our second try that was disallowed - we were penalised for retaliation but my understanding from the people around me was the Bailey threw the first punch so the penalty should the penalty not gone our way?
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Littler threw the first punch so the penalty was not for retaliation.

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Quote: reffy "Littler threw the first punch so the penalty was not for retaliation.'"


Don't they say that you should "always get your retaliation in first"? On that basis, it could have been argued to be retaliation!! icon_wink.gif

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If you watch the footage of the 8 pointer it was a bad and stupid challenge by Stu Donlan and deserved the penalty.

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Also you can't give an 8 pointer for a foul on somebody other than the try scorer.

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Quote: reffy "Littler threw the first punch so the penalty was not for retaliation.'"

I think you are certainly biased towards the referees and this fellow was poor tonight. Full stop.....
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